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Immigration Reform Considered After Ridge Hints at Amnesty
Fox ^ | 12-26-04 | Peter Brownfeld

Posted on 12/26/2003 8:26:36 PM PST by JustPiper

Edited on 04/22/2004 12:38:13 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; borders; bushamnesty; illegals; immigration; immigrationreform; republicanturncoats; ridge; tancredo; tancredo2004
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Freeper's we need a number for Ridge and the White House...we need to FLOOD these switchboards come Monday!!!
1 posted on 12/26/2003 8:26:37 PM PST by JustPiper
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To: gubamyster; FairOpinion; FoxFang; FITZ; moehoward; Nea Wood; Joe Hadenuf; sangoo; ...
Action Needed Ping!!!
2 posted on 12/26/2003 8:27:08 PM PST by JustPiper (My goal in life is to survive. Everything else is just a bonus)
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To: JustPiper
Why is it that the only immigration reform our leaders seem to be able to forumulate, involves a complete capitulation regarding the sanctity of our borders?

"A nation without border controls, is NOT A NATION!"
3 posted on 12/26/2003 8:28:58 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: JustPiper
.."The bottom line is, as a country we have to come to grips with the presence of 8 to 12 million illegals"..

Oh we have to come to "grips" with the presence?? I can think of a few ways.. < being sarcastic of course > HOW about reorganizing the INS and ENFORCING THE LAW???

4 posted on 12/26/2003 8:29:45 PM PST by Zipporah (Write in Tancredo 2004)
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To: JustPiper
She said she does not support "a free ride for anybody, but at the same time we can't pretend that these folks aren't contributing. In many cases, they are doing jobs that others don't want to. Without them, we as a nation would have a difficult time functioning," she said.

I am so darned SICK of hearing this baloney about illegal immigrants doing jobs that others don't want to. How do they KNOW no one else wants to do them when the jobs are filled by illegals? And I've also heard and read people claim that the illegal immigrants are taxpayers. Huh? Sales tax, maybe, but they can't pay income tax without a Social Security number and they can't have a Social Security number if they are not here legally.

5 posted on 12/26/2003 8:33:56 PM PST by arasina
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Bump! Zipp, I think your tagline says it all and I would back up this plan! Tom Tancredo write in campaign!
6 posted on 12/26/2003 8:35:46 PM PST by JustPiper (My goal in life is to survive. Everything else is just a bonus)
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PING.
7 posted on 12/26/2003 8:37:26 PM PST by Missouri
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To: Zipporah
INS is now called U.S. Citizenship & Immigration Services for some reason --- probably to be politically correct.(UCIS.gov)
8 posted on 12/26/2003 8:37:29 PM PST by arasina
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To: JustPiper
As much as I like him, I pin this one directly on GWB. Someone please tell him that he ain't guvnah of Texas anymore and he no longer has to pander to the Texican voting block.

It is shameful for GWB to make the extraordinarily inarticulate Governor Ridge his frontman for this disaster.

Immigration is now a national security issue instead of an economic or "diversity" issue.


9 posted on 12/26/2003 8:37:29 PM PST by My Dog Likes Me
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To: arasina
"doing jobs that others don't want to. How do they KNOW no one else wants to do them when the jobs are filled by illegals? "

You are exactly right.. and what's interesting is that this SAME exact argument is being touted by the EU re immigration.

10 posted on 12/26/2003 8:39:16 PM PST by Zipporah (Write in Tancredo 2004)
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To: JustPiper
The USA aborted about 40+ million of its citizens the last thirty years..many of those would be in the height of their tax paying lives...
So now we have to import dregs to replace them....who are more of a burden on our resources than our own citizens would have been...
There are a lot of votes at stake now and ten years from now.....
Mexicans are about to be able to dictate policy regarding themselves..its like being able to vote yourself a raise and more benefits...
11 posted on 12/26/2003 8:42:23 PM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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It's only that no one wants else to do those jobs at slave-labor wages.
12 posted on 12/26/2003 8:43:58 PM PST by thoughtomator ("I will do whatever the Americans want because I saw what happened in Iraq, and I was afraid"-Qadafi)
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To: JustPiper
Ridge and the White House

I heard on the radio (I don't know how true it is) that Ridge has said something to the fact that this semi-amnesty is going thru no matter what the citizens think. I'm wondering if anyone could confirm this. If true, its quite a slap in the face to the citizens.

13 posted on 12/26/2003 8:44:14 PM PST by Missouri
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To: JustPiper
One word here: POLITICS! To appease the pubbies, reform requires temp visa status. for the Rats, amnesty. Who loses? AZ, CA, NM, TX, BICE officers, Ranchers, Healthcare and other state services that you pay for. Who wins? A million illegals in the US and the another million who will cross every year, Fox, AFL-CIO Unions and the Rat party candidates it funds. Bush who can tell Mexican voters he's the man.
Ridge is failing!
14 posted on 12/26/2003 8:45:36 PM PST by endthematrix (To enter my lane you must use your turn signal!)
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To: thoughtomator
..I don't disagree that one of the problems is cheap labor..but when the same arguments are given elsewhere.. it's suspect.
15 posted on 12/26/2003 8:45:50 PM PST by Zipporah (Write in Tancredo 2004)
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To: Zipporah
It's suspect when that "elsewhere" is Europe, yeah.
16 posted on 12/26/2003 8:46:49 PM PST by thoughtomator ("I will do whatever the Americans want because I saw what happened in Iraq, and I was afraid"-Qadafi)
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To: Missouri
Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge ..what a joke. I heard Tancredo on Fox News Live this a.m. he stated exactly what needs to be done needless to say, he made David Asman a bit nervous. It was strange Asman didn't want to address what Tancredo was stating.
17 posted on 12/26/2003 8:50:53 PM PST by Zipporah (Write in Tancredo 2004)
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To: thoughtomator
And what do you mean by that?? The EU is pushing for immigration big time.. some of those nations are very nationalistic. They are pushing 'diversity' and there, just as here, the people can't do a darned thing about it.
18 posted on 12/26/2003 8:52:37 PM PST by Zipporah (Write in Tancredo 2004)
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To: My Dog Likes Me
I like Bush also, alot! But this is his policy and thus how can we vote for him?
19 posted on 12/26/2003 8:57:18 PM PST by JustPiper (My goal in life is to survive. Everything else is just a bonus)
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To: Missouri
Ridge has said something to the fact that this semi-amnesty is going thru no matter what the citizens think. I'm wondering if anyone could confirm this. If true, its quite a slap in the face to the citizens

If this 'is' true, I am appalled and we need to send it to the DNC! They will get this coverage and Bush and Ridge will then have no choice, we must play their game and call them out before its too, too late!

20 posted on 12/26/2003 8:59:00 PM PST by JustPiper (My goal in life is to survive. Everything else is just a bonus)
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