GOP must clean house

Chicago Sun Times ^ | 12-27-03 | Thomas Roeser

[JustPiper]

Now, back to Fitzgerald. At 43, his best years are ahead of him. If the GOP is honest about reforming itself, it should beg him to run for governor in 2006.

On 11-11-03 I received a three page letter from Fitzgerald on my number one issue-Immigration and I tell you he would get my vote for Governor. But, BUT, can Blago be only a one term governor with the Machine behind him?

[JustPiper]

Ping! Your thoughts?

[farmfriend]

Short list.

[TheRightGuy]

I tell you he would get my vote for Governor. But, BUT, can Blago be only a one term governor with the Machine behind him?

NEWS FLASH! Pat O'Malley will be next governor of Illinois.

We should draft Fitz for senate re-run!

[E.G.C.]

BTT!!!!!

[Vigilanteman]

Fitzgerald is a prize if only the Republicans would appreciate what they have. He and our junior senator from Pennsylvania not only repesent an important demographic (conservative Catholics), but stand their ground and earn admirers and votes from old-style Democrats.

Any inside word on who is going to replace Fitz in the Senate?

[liberty or death]

Illinois is an example of blindly towing the party line. Whether its Democrats or Republicans, the scum will rise to the top if the people are not paying attention to anything but the letter after the name.
We can see as an example that the Dems are corrupt nationwide because they have not answered for their crimes and political disasters of the last 40 years.

[SERKIT]

The true credit that Fitzgerald deserves is this: He had the stones to facilitate getting a good Federal prosecutor in Illinois to handle the George Ryan case. The Republican machine is so messed up, it wouldn't have had the courage to get a "clean" prosecutor in here - but maybe a wimpy "go along to get along" kind of prosecutor. Also, I'd like to see DuPage County cleaned up, also.....too many lingering issues and shady deals. The Republicans have a long way to go to gain Illinois for Bush.

[eartotheground]

The GOP house that needs to be cleaned is in florida, starting with Sen Jim King, not to mention Sen Dennis Jones, Sen Tom Lee, all notorious RINO's.

[SierraWasp]

I hardly know what to say!!!

If one dares mention RINO's or (gasp) CINO's or "Considerate Conservatism" instead of "Compassionate Conservatism" one get's immediately flamed anymore by a "Posse" and badgered by the "Victory at ANY Price" crowd at every turn!!!

So, not wanting to be "marginalized" as a hopless loser on the verge of being struck down by a "ZOT," and preferring to be a "live chicken" as opposed to a "dead duck," I've decided to become a stealth "straight and narrow" "Constitutional Conservative" by hiding my light under the proverbial "bushel!"

The old saying, "Bend or Break," or "Change or Die" which was once lauched at me as I challenged a liberal leftist green-gang elected official has finally come true for me on a "conservative" web-site!!!

I spent far too much time yesterday defending an arch conservative radio talk show host on this site from spurious allegations and suppositions! I don't want to think these FReepers want to help destroy serious conservatism, but I'm truly beginning to wonder when I see mainstream conservatism be bombarded with a "full court press" by another blooming "Posse!"

So I'm gonna hafta kinda pull over to the side of this road a little and wait to see what's happenin here because it's truly bizzare!!! Have "They" finally found a way to infect our conservative family with potentially destructive divisiveness? Am I over reacting and alone in my concerns?

Dissent and debate can be good and I enjoy it as much as anyone, but what I am beginning to see on here has a real "Political Correctness" dismissiveness to it!!! Nobody likes to get "dissed" including me, unless I sense I have to. It may not ever reach that point as I don't "have to" even be here in the first place, for that matter.

I truly miss the FR fellowship I felt on a much broader scale up to around the time of the CA Recall election. It's been slipping away, ever since and even being driven away now, by some, IMO. Maybe I shouldn't worry about it, but it does bother me.

[KantianBurke]

Huh? Care to decipher that please?

[farmfriend]

Am I over reacting and alone in my concerns?

No you are not. It has been my pet gripe around here for some time. I hate to say it but "it" slides down hill.

[farmfriend]

Care to decipher that please?

SierraWasp is very plain spoken to them who care to listen.

[KantianBurke]

No, I'm being serious. I honestly have no idea what he wrote throughout that entire paragraph. Just give us in the dark the gist of it.

[farmfriend]

There is a group here on FR that are given free reign to terrorize any conservative who dares to suggests that certain elected officials are not upholding conservative values. Like me, SierraWasp fears that free speech by conservatives is being marginalized on this forum.

[CWOJackson]

Live chickens and dead ducks? I think it has something to do with Mad Duck disease.

[KantianBurke]

To be perfectly honest I don't feel that's the case. As one who frequently attacks and gets attacked by the bots, I've never had a problem with any of my posts being deleted or being threatened with banishment. Sure its distressing to see the bots make all sorts of excuses for their GOP darlings but that's not tantamount to censorship or official FR policy.

Am genuienly curious as to how you guys came to feel differently. Freepmail me if its need to be kept under wraps.

[farmfriend]

Am genuienly curious as to how you guys came to feel differently.

During the height of the Arnold v. McClintock threads and on thread discussing Bush policies, it was quite common for McClintock people (or people complaining about some of Bush's decisions) to get banned. Yet at the same time, Arnold people could say anything and not get banned or even have posts pulled. I read many of the posts that were pulled and could see nothing in them that violated FR rules. The "bots" as we call them are notorious for bating then hitting abuse when you respond. This is why SierraWasp says he will pull to the side of the road. He is saying that he will hold his tongue rather than risk getting banned. I will do no such thing. I stayed off the political threads and stick to property rights for the most part. I don't get involved in the debate but I will speak my mind and banning me will only lend credence to the truth of what I say.

[KantianBurke]

Who was banned?? I don't remember anyone getting the boot. Also are you sure that the posts you read that got the people kicked out weren't offensive? Like I said before I've never felt that way nor has anyone threatened to ban me due to what I've written. It is true that a split has developed between the bots and the conservatives.