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To: 4ConservativeJustices
No the constitution is not god, it did not pre-exist, and it did not delegate anything to the states, but it did delegate certain powers to the Federal government, and it is the supreme law of the land, the laws and the constitutions of the states nonwithstanding. Once again words have meaning.

I put "undelegate" in paranthesis for a reason. Powers delegated by the Constitution can only be taken away by Constitutional amendment.

And not the 10th. The 10th isn't the "kings x" amendment that means the rest of the constitution is null and void because one state doesn't like something that the feds or another state does. Thats just a recipe for blackmail.



1,061 posted on 02/05/2004 8:57:52 PM PST by hirn_man
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To: hirn_man
Powers delegated by the Constitution can only be taken away by Constitutional amendment.

WHERE does it say that?

Amendment X says EXACTLY the opposite of your assertion/

1,064 posted on 02/06/2004 3:19:16 AM PST by 4CJ (||) Support free speech and stop CFR - visit www.ArmorforCongress.com (||)
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To: hirn_man; 4ConservativeJustices
The states delegated certain explicit powers to the Federal government, and nothing else. The Tenth Amendment states that all other powers remain with the several states and their people. Saying that the Tenth Amendment gives the states the power to secede is not the same as saying the rest of the Constitution is null and void, because the document is still in effect and is still the law of land for the remaining states in the Union.

To deny the states a right to secede when they feel their rights have been denied or abused is to negate Article IV Section 4's guarantee that:

The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government, and shall protect each of them against invasion; and on application of the legislature, or of the executive (when the legislature cannot be convened) against domestic violence.

because the states would then be at the mercy of the federal Supreme Court with no other recourse for satisfaction in a dispute. If no reconciliation is possible in a dispute, then the state must be allowed to leave on its own volition or else its people are reduced to being subjects instead of remaining citizens.

1,077 posted on 02/06/2004 2:18:05 PM PST by HenryLeeII (John Kerry's votes have killed more people than my guns!)
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