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To: stand watie

Can't take it can you? Facts are stubborn things.
Let's just review what you are afraid of:
1. The President and the Vice President of the Confederacy stated the Secession was about slavery. You did not and can not refute their statements. Would you like me to repeat that? Oh, well sure. The President and Vice President of the Confederacy stated the Secession was about SLAVERY. Until you admit it you are only lying to yourself.
2. You demand to treat the civil war like the here and now but then avoid the issue of slave reparations that would arise from that perspective.
3. You demand that this is a...LEFTIST DAMNYANKEE ELITIST NORTHEASTERN/LEFT COAST etc. etc. but cannot see that the Confederacy chose a system similar to the one they left but one based on protecting slavery.
4. You cannot and will not reference the 4 million slaves referred to in the speech because otherwise you would have to admit you are promoting their enslavement and the desire to have preserved that enslavement.

You throw out the "Revisionist" label but only YOU are the one revising history. It is why you CANNOT talk about the speeches. Otherwise you cannot promote your revisionism.

YOU ARE EXPOSED!

No wonder you don't want me to respond.


1,110 posted on 03/13/2007 10:35:47 PM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local communist or socialist party chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing.)
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To: IrishCatholic
like i said, i'm NOT going to let you get away with that LIE.

REVISIONIST historiography is a LEFTIST, statist, heresy of traditional scholarship, which is out of the most extreme,lunatic fringe of northeastern academia.

southerners (for whatever our other problems may be) are NOT revisionists.

traditional scholarship on TWBTS is PRO-southern or NEUTRAL in outlook.

only the HATERS out of the LEFTIST portion of the political spectrum would agree with your SELF-righteous nonsense. the TRUTH is that you have been LIED TO & "made a fool of" by the REVISIONIST LEFT.

as for the elitist, plantation aristocracy, I'm NO fan of their attachment to "protecting slavery". nonetheless, the opinions of the 5-6% of southerners/NORTHERNERS, who owned slaves, is NOT germane to this discussion.

btw, what part of my comment about the "common folks" of dixie being willing to ally with the elites FOR A WHILE to get FREEDOM, did you NOT understand??? had our dixie ancestors won the war,the aristocrats might well have been NEXT on the list of enemies of FREEDOM.

you keep avoiding answering my original question about the WIDESPREAD ATROCITIES of the DAMNyankee invaders (most of which were committed against "persons other than white", prisoners of war, religious minorities & the "poorest of the poor whites"). were those ATROCITIES acceptable to YOU or NOT??? (a really simple answer, YES/NO is the ONLY acceptable answer. IF you are UNwilling to answer that with one word,we have nothing further to discuss.)

free dixie,sw

1,111 posted on 03/14/2007 8:11:05 AM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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