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1 posted on 01/13/2004 9:20:42 AM PST by William McKinley
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To: William McKinley
They had Suskind on two days in a row?!
2 posted on 01/13/2004 9:22:04 AM PST by mewzilla
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To: William McKinley
O'Niel backpedaled so fast that time went backwards. Suskind must have felt odd watching his primary witness deny or at least mitigate or attenuate most of the bolder claims he made in his shocking, tell-all book.
6 posted on 01/13/2004 9:33:27 AM PST by Asclepius (karma vigilante)
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To: William McKinley
"Well, let's talk about your assessment of the president and, I guess, his leadership style, for lack of a better term."

Nope. No bias there.

14 posted on 01/13/2004 9:49:15 AM PST by Jaxter ("Vivit Post Funera Virtus")
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To: William McKinley
The leftstream media will milk this cow until the udders get raw. Unfortunately for them, Paul O'Neill is a "downer".
15 posted on 01/13/2004 9:50:43 AM PST by Semi Civil Servant
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To: William McKinley
Katie is appallingly biased and liberal, making pointed attempts to villify Bush by begging the question, coming to her own little myopic conclusions before the answer is returned. This is the sort of read that turns my stomach.

With regard to O'Neill, someone must have really put the pressure on him. He's backpeddling like a circus clown on a unicycle.

The sad, sad point of all this is that the lemmings in the public will believe this tripe.

Let's take a few examples of insane liberal thinking:

O'Neill: If the cover page and the attachments were secret, the cover page was not secret.

Ok, so, "I didn't say what I said, I didn't do as I did." Yes indeed, that litmus test passes liberal muster.

Now, let's find and example of placing the blame somewhere else. That's any politician's first defense, notwithstanding republicans too. Liberals have to use this primary defense more often because they know their ideology never works in practice, and they have to resort to illegal measures to ram their tripe down the country's throat, right? Right. Ok.

O'Neill: What they will discover is the general counsel, the chief legal officer of the Treasury Department, went through all these documents and sent me things. Under the law, he's not supposed to send me anything that isn't unclassified. And so if there's anything in that file that's unclassified, the general counsel failed to be sure that everything was clear.

Ah, yes. Blame the general counsel. Liberal mantra above all others: take no responsibility for your own actions.

O'Neill: (I thought) that in the fourth quarter of 2003, the real growth rate would be 6 percent. It turned out to be 8.2 percent. I think the 2.2 percent came because of the third tax cut, but the price we are going to pay for it is enormous because it reduces our fiscal flexibility to fix Social Security, which we desperately need to do.

Ok. Myopic liberal thinking. Liberals look at the economy as a simple linear system that responds to stimuli, especially government stimuli. Stimulus, response. Stimulus, response, again.

Now, the dirty little secret none of the media wish to reveal is that under Reagan, it was proven that by decreasing taxes, the economy grew and government receipts went UP. More dollars are attracted to quality goods and services that are considered fairly priced. This creates revenue. Revenue creates tax reciepts for the treasury! Lower taxes produces GREATER income for the government.

Look at it this way. If we tax at 100%, no one will work. If we tax at 0%, we'll have no public roads or police. Therefore, somewhere in between is optimal. Economic growth is created by tax cuts, which, if the politicans were not so myopic and a little more patient, over the course of a relatively short time, they would be happy with GREATER income with which to give them their ego boost and power trip.

(shaking head) You know, I think it's about time to simply scream and check into a passport off the planet. (smile)

16 posted on 01/13/2004 10:12:51 AM PST by RightlySo (Capitalism is the unequal distribution of wealth; socialism is the equal distribution of poverty.)
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COURIC: ...But you say nowhere did you ever see evidence that Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction. Well, an intelligent person would draw the conclusion that those charges were being trumped up by the administration as a rationale for the invasion.

(snip)

COURIC: Well, let's talk about your assessment of the president and, I guess, his leadership style, for lack of a better term. You do describe him as disengaged. You do describe, I think if I can, sort of, try to assess your description, as policy having no process, kind of, being put together willy-nilly. You do describe him as a blind man in a room full of deaf people. So what are you saying about the way policy is established in this White House?

If Tom Brokaw thinks that's not biased, he's a deaf man in a room full of dumb people.

17 posted on 01/13/2004 10:15:25 AM PST by L.N. Smithee (Just because I don't think like you doesn't mean I don't think for myself)
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To: William McKinley
O'Neill seems to be trying to quiet the situation. Al Katie is being Al Katie.
18 posted on 01/13/2004 10:23:42 AM PST by Moonman62
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To: William McKinley
Ah, the Liberals caught in their own hyperbole again! .... ONeill himself is debunking this "we planned the war" mantra ...


O'NEILL: Yeah, and the other thing that's good, today the book is going to be available, and this red meat frenzy that's occurred when people didn't have anything except snippets -- as an example, you know, people are trying to make a case that I said the president was planning war in Iraq early in the administration. Actually, there was a continuation of work that had been going on in the Clinton administration with the notion that there needed to be regime change in Iraq.


COURIC: So you see nothing wrong with that being at the top of the president's agenda 10 days after the inauguration?


O'NEILL: Absolutely not. One of the candidates had said this confirms his worst suspicions. I'm amazed that anyone would think that our government, on a continuing basis across political administrations, doesn't do contingency planning and look at circumstances. Saddam Hussein has been this forever. And so, I was surprised, as I've said in the book, that Iraq was given such a high priority. But I was not surprised that we were doing a continuation of planning that had been going on and looking at contingency options during the Clinton administration.
26 posted on 01/13/2004 11:58:25 AM PST by WOSG (I dont want the GOP to become a circular firing squad and the Socialist Democrats a majority.)
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To: William McKinley
Katie is much better doing the cooking spots...and fashion stuff. She is way over her head on political matters.

If anyone looked flustered and frustrated it is perky Katie.

As for O'Neill, it look like he is trying to cover up his stupid ass.

Suskind ----a snake.

28 posted on 01/13/2004 12:03:03 PM PST by eleni121 (Preempt and Prevent)
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To: William McKinley
Backpeddle, schmackpeddle....I STILL think we should go to O'Neill's house and heckle HIM!

To quote an idea in an 'ol Seinfield episode--George suggests Jerry go to the heckler's work, and heckle THEM--since O'Neill doesn't HAVE a job right now, I took the liberty of saying "house" ;-)

NordP

30 posted on 01/13/2004 12:08:54 PM PST by NordP (Peace through Strength - W 2004 !!!)
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To: William McKinley
I saw part of this "interview" this AM by accident. O'Neill was backtracking so much I am surprised he didn't end up in the Atlantic.

Katie looked deeply disappointed that O'Neill didn't demand for Bush's impeachement or a special prosecutor. She was sure hoping for something like that.

And did they have someone from Bush's camp come on a refute what O'Neil said? No, that is quite a change from the Clinton years when they didn't have Clinton critics that wrote book on their show or when they did, they had one of the Clintonistas on to refute what a Clinton critic said about their man.
32 posted on 01/13/2004 12:10:29 PM PST by The South Texan (The Democrat Party and the leftist (ABCCBSNBCCNN NYLATIMES)media are a criminal enterprise!)
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To: William McKinley
There is a HUGE disconnect between Couric's interview of O'Neill (as well as others) and the 60 minutes piece. I think the unedited interview of O'Neill by Stahl should be released. I think Stahl did a MAJOR hit piece using creative editing. That is why O'Neill seemed so puzzled by people who said he was being critical of Bush.

There is a whole lot more to this story. Will anyone listen?

34 posted on 01/13/2004 12:12:54 PM PST by Solson (Our work is the presentation of our capabilities. - Von Goethe)
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To: William McKinley
All right. Well, Paul O'Neill and Ron Suskind, you didn't get much in.

Translation: "You're voting for Bush? Interview over ... good day."

37 posted on 01/13/2004 12:58:39 PM PST by al_c
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To: William McKinley
It is obvious that BOZONeill spent too much time with BONO in Africa...the mind melt, you know.

I wonder who in the cabinet of deaf people were more deaf than Paul ONeill.
Apparently Paul was the deafest of all!!

49 posted on 01/13/2004 2:47:21 PM PST by rundy
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