[sinkspur]

Priests as a group are simply not in touch with the laity.

The "new fogeys" better figure out a way to change this.

Laymen don't care what kind of attire a priest prances around in. And they are not going to be deferential to him just because he wants it.

Cocksureness is a quality of youth, whether in the Church, or in business, or elsewhere.

They'll grow out of it.

[BlackElk]

Ping for later

[Antoninus]

Priests as a group are simply not in touch with the laity. The "new fogeys" better figure out a way to change this.

Don't worry. The most "in touch" priests I know are those who say Mass at the Latin indult parish I attend sometimes.

Most of the elderly "progressive" radicals can't stand the idea that their precious "gains" are going to be erased by a younger generation that thinks the 1960s crowd did great damage to the Church. Fortunately, most of them will be in their eternal reward (or otherwise) while us youngsters are repairing the havoc they created.

[Askel5]

=== Cocksureness is a quality of youth, whether in the Church, or in business, or elsewhere.

Hey kiddo ...

I have never observed that counter-revolutionaries and faithful, older trads tend to "prance" in their clericals.

Rather, I see prancing among the sorts who tend to gladhand while the Eucharist sits unattended on the altar or who pull out their clericals only when attending whatever leftist rally or court appearance they think to color with "Catholic" support by wearing a collar or veil for dramatic effect.

[Notwithstanding]

Your posts are always amusing - and always selling laymen short. To be sure, you do offer misguided and shallow platitudes to the layman. But you generally presume that the layman is incapable of appreciating the higher, harder truths - ideals that man may not always achieve, but which are worth striving for nonetheless.

You presume that every layman is a hopeless boobus americanus. How very sad.

[Incorrigible]

Priests as a group are simply not in touch with the laity.

The "new fogeys" better figure out a way to change this.

Sinkspur, remember this is Greeley who wrote this.  The guys I went to high school with who became priests (only one a Jesuit despite our schooling!) are generally more conservative than their elders but at the same time, try to avoid getting involved in priestly politics (not easy) and get to know their parishioners.  They don't prance around.  Well, OK, maybe one of them.

There's a traditional Monsignor from Ireland in my current parish (lucky us, he coincidently moved from our old parish around the time we were moving!).  The Diocese usually sends some young guys to serve in his parish for a few years before moving on to more responsible roles.  The current prelate is an all around good guy and very in touch with the laity and the organizations surrounding the parish.

We may be just lucky though.

And Doc, you have to put a "Greeley Alert" warning in the title of these threads lest one reads the content and becomes corrupted!

Priests as a group are simply not in touch with the laity.

The "new fogeys" better figure out a way to change this.