Democrats delay taking a position on Schwarzenegger bond measure (Prop 57)

Associated Press (via San Jose Mercury News) ^ | 18 January 2004

[CounterCounterCulture]

SAN JOSE, Calif. - Delegates to the California Democratic Party convention delayed a decision Sunday on whether to support Proposition 57, the statewide bond measure championed by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger as the key to his economic recovery program.

The proposition, which goes before voters at the March 2 primary, would allow the state to borrow $15 billion to pay off debts which come due June 30.

[CounterCounterCulture]

More articles from the state convention:
* 2004 California Democrat State Convention reports *

[farmfriend]

Short list.

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If this is taxes with reprsentation
Give me taxes without representation
I much prefer a tax on tea!
Instead of everything else.

[CounterCounterCulture]

I have a feeling the Democrats are waiting to see which way the wind blows on the popularity of this proposition.

[farmfriend]

I agree.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Well they do not want any programs cut, and they want to expand others.

Tax increase is what they want, but they are not sure how to get it.

They are looking for a way to get it and pin it on Arnoold!

They may go for the chaos theory, that is vote down the bond to induce hurt and fear among the population and stampede them into blaming Arnoold for the chaos and vote for a new Governor in November so that the programs can be restored!!

[farmfriend]

I think you just may be right on this.

[LibertarianInExile]

Bully for them. I wouldn't vote for this measure if I were there, either, and I hope he doesn't run after this term anyway. Let him face the job they elected him to do instead of shunting it onto future Californians. Let them deal with the cuts instead of postponing the decision. It's way past time politicians were forced to make decisions instead of letting them blame the electorate for their complete wussiness.

[farmfriend]

I plan on voting against the measure. Didn't vote for Arnold the first time around and wouldn't do so again.

[CyberAnt]

As usual .. the dems are holding up a finger to see which way the wind is blowing.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Time to call it a night!

Have a good week!

[E.G.C.]

BTTT!!!!!

[heleny]

Last month, legislators of both parties voted narrowly to place the measure on the ballot.

Actually, the vote was along party-lines in the state Senate, with the Democrats voting overwhelmingly for it and just enough (two) Republicans to pass it (by one vote). Like the budget bills, placing Prop 57 on the ballot required a 2/3 vote.

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Senate votes (GOP in boldface)

	VOTES - ROLL CALL
MEASURE:	ABX5 9
AUTHOR:	Oropeza
TOPIC:	Economic recovery bonds.
DATE:	12/12/2003
LOCATION:	SEN. FLOOR
MOTION:	W/O REF. TO FILE AB9 Oropeza By Chesbro
	(AYES  27. NOES  12.)  (PASS)


	AYES
	****
Ackerman	Alarcon	Alpert	Bowen
Brulte	Burton	Cedillo	Chesbro
Ducheny	Dunn	Escutia	Figueroa
Florez	Karnette	Kuehl	Machado
Murray	Ortiz	Perata	Romero
Scott	Sher	Soto	Speier
Torlakson	Vasconcellos	Vincent


	NOES
	****
Aanestad	Ashburn	Battin	Denham
Hollingsworth	Johnson	Margett	McClintock
McPherson	Morrow	Oller	Poochigian


	ABSENT, ABSTAINING, OR NOT VOTING
	*********************************
Knight

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Assembly votes: (GOP in boldface)

	VOTES - ROLL CALL
MEASURE:	ABX5 9
AUTHOR:	Oropeza
TOPIC:	Economic recovery bonds.
DATE:	12/11/2003
LOCATION:	ASM. FLOOR
MOTION:	AB9 Oropeza  Third Reading Urgency  Fifth Extraordinary Session
	(AYES  65. NOES  13.)  (PASS)


	AYES
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Aghazarian	Benoit	Berg	Bermudez

Bogh	Calderon	Canciamilla	Chu
Cogdill	Cohn	Corbett	Correa
Cox	Daucher	Diaz	Dutra
Dutton	Dymally	Firebaugh	Goldberg
Harman	Jerome Horton	Shirley Horton	Houston
Jackson	Keene	Kehoe	Koretz
La Malfa	La Suer	Laird	Leno
Leslie	Levine	Lieber	Liu
Longville	Lowenthal	Matthews	McCarthy
Montanez	Mullin	Nakanishi	Nakano
Nation	Negrete McLeod	Nunez	Oropeza
Pacheco	Parra	Pavley	Plescia
Reyes	Richman	Ridley-Thomas	Runner
Salinas	Samuelian	Spitzer	Steinberg
Vargas	Wiggins	Wolk	Yee
Wesson


	NOES
	****
Bates	Campbell	Chavez	Frommer
Garcia	Haynes	Maddox	Maldonado
Maze	Mountjoy	Simitian	Strickland
Wyland


	ABSENT, ABSTAINING, OR NOT VOTING
	*********************************
Chan	Hancock

[Tempest]

Yep, I can agree with that.