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Student broadcaster suspended for 'God bless'
WND ^ | Jan 21, 2003

Posted on 01/21/2004 7:34:02 AM PST by missyme

More Attacks agaisnt GOD!

Sign-off before holiday deemed inappropriate for public institution

A high school student dismissed from his school broadcast program for signing off with "God bless" is rallying community members to his side.

James Lord, a senior at Dupo High School in Belleville, Ill., was suspended for one month from his daily news broadcast on the school's closed circuit television after signing off his Dec. 17 broadcast, the Belleville News-Democrat reported.

Lord told his student audience: "Have a safe and happy holiday, and God bless."

School Principal Jonathan Heerboth has said Lord's comment was inappropriate for public school, the paper reported.

Lord said he plans to appeal the suspension because he claims it violated his First Amendment rights. Geoffrey Surtees, a lawyer with the Virginia-based American Center for Law and Justice who is advising Lord, said he would wait to see the outcome of the board meeting before making a comment.

Ahead of his address to the school board, Lord distributed more than 400 flyers to encourage local people to attend the meeting. The fliers said the school board was to meet last night, but board members say it is scheduled Jan. 27.

Will Lord say "God bless" again when he returns to the show Feb. 1?

"I can't guarantee I won't say it again," the student said, according to the News-Democrat.

School board member Mike Kloess said he had nothing against Lord's actions.

"I didn't have a problem with what he said, but [Superintendent Michael] Koebel knows the rules and knows what people can say and can't say," he told the Belleville paper.

Koebel could not be reached for comment.

James' mother, Beverly Lord, called the school's decision harsh and a suppression of free speech, the paper said.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy
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To: missyme
Someone should remind Principal Jonathan Heerboth that "you deny me before man, I will deny you before my father. Every knee WILL bend and every head WILL bow".
41 posted on 01/21/2004 10:26:00 AM PST by Texagirl4W (If you do not stand firm in your faith, you will not stand at all. - Isaiah 7:9)
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To: missyme
Someone should remind Principal Jonathan Heerboth that "you deny me before man, I will deny you before my father. Every knee WILL bend and every head WILL bow".
42 posted on 01/21/2004 10:26:28 AM PST by Texagirl4W (If you do not stand firm in your faith, you will not stand at all. - Isaiah 7:9)
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To: missyme
Zoinks... Free Speech constitutionalism alert...
43 posted on 01/21/2004 10:27:28 AM PST by Kermit the Frog Does theWatusi
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To: Eastbound
Have you read the book "Persecution" by David Limbaugh. It's a must read for anyone interested in this issue.

By the way, it appears the secularists on this thread have fled.

44 posted on 01/21/2004 10:30:17 AM PST by exmarine ( sic semper tyrannis)
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To: exmarine
No, haven't read it, but will look for it. Thanks. Currently reading "FedEd," The New Federal Curriculum and How It's Enforced, by Allen Quist. Another eye-opener.

Publisher's comments: "Virtually every state in the Union is scrambling to radically change its education system. Few people realize that these changes are largely being driven by the fine print in federal laws first passed in 1994. It's the new Federla Curriculum, and it's contrary to everything America stands for.

"In his book, Allen Quist strips away the veil and cuts through the rhetoric. He shows how the change agents are quietly and effectively restructuring education in a way that transforms schools from institutions of learning to centers of social engineering."

Another book I would trust is Dr. James Hirsen's, "The Coming Collision." Both books confirm what many of us already know and what millions more have suspected.

The only question I have today is will 2004 be the year of the 'Great Collision' brought on by the great collusion?

(Yes, darkness rules the night, but flees at sunrise. ;>)

45 posted on 01/21/2004 10:59:27 AM PST by Eastbound
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To: <1/1,000,000th%
I remember what you remember. But he wasn't in publik skool.

But it pre-dated cable, so it was on public airwaves.

46 posted on 01/21/2004 11:01:21 AM PST by gundog
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To: Steve_Seattle
Thank you.
47 posted on 01/21/2004 11:01:34 AM PST by WinOne4TheGipper (The Democrats: an innovative bunch. Every time you think they've hit bottom, they find new lows.)
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To: Eastbound
...the change agents are quietly and effectively restructuring education in a way that transforms schools from institutions of learning to centers of social engineering."

Thanks for the recommendation - sounds like a good read. Hitler knew very well that if you control the youth, you control the direction of the nation. Abe Lincoln said that the philosophy in the classroom today will be the philosophy of government tomorrow. That's scary as hell considering that the philosophy of the classroom today is anti-Americanism, moral relativism, hedonism, nihilism, and licentiousness.

48 posted on 01/21/2004 11:03:36 AM PST by exmarine ( sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Eastbound
The only question I have today is will 2004 be the year of the 'Great Collision' brought on by the great collusion?

Not having read Hirsen's book, who will be doing the colliding? Christians vs. secularists?

49 posted on 01/21/2004 11:07:21 AM PST by exmarine ( sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Ff--150
I've always wondered why some think that telling children to honour God, to not lie, to honour their mother AND father, to not steal, etc will give them the wrong message.
50 posted on 01/21/2004 11:09:51 AM PST by 4CJ (||) Dialing 911 doesn't stop a crime - a .45 does. (||)
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To: will1776
I fail to see how this would fall under the establishment clause. This is the free exercise clause.

I thought gym class came under the free exercise clause.

ducking

51 posted on 01/21/2004 11:20:54 AM PST by talleyman (It takes a village to raise an idiot.)
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To: exmarine
"Abe Lincoln said that the philosophy in the classroom today will be the philosophy of government tomorrow."

That's precisely the theme of the book. I suppose it would be correct use present-tense in the re-statement, 'the philosophy in the classroom is the philosophy of government today.'

BTW, the gummint farmed out the entire education curriculum to a socialist NWO NGO group, the Center for Civic Education in 1994 with HR6 without going through the bid process. The Department of Education was not required to allow bids or consider any other group for writing the national standards [for education]. The CCE had an exclusive inside track.

We can already see plainly what ten years has wrought. What will the next ten years bring, if the nation does not awake from its anesthesia?

52 posted on 01/21/2004 11:39:56 AM PST by Eastbound
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To: 4ConservativeJustices
I've always wondered why some think that telling children to honour God, to not lie, to honour their mother AND father, to not steal, etc will give them the wrong message

See that's why I maintain that the USA has been taken over by an oligarchy, because folks were placed in political power with the same wharped mentality as that DU troll had, making it impossible for the sensible to reason with the insensible.

During this squabbling between the logical and illogical the oligarchy worked behind the scenes to subvert the Constitution.

53 posted on 01/21/2004 11:42:14 AM PST by Ff--150 (What is Is)
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To: Eastbound
We can already see plainly what ten years has wrought. What will the next ten years bring, if the nation does not awake from its anesthesia?

There is only one solution for parents who give a crap: Take your kids out of the cesspool of gummint schools. It is the ONLY solution. Some might say they can't afford it, I say, they can't afford not to.

54 posted on 01/21/2004 11:43:09 AM PST by exmarine ( sic semper tyrannis)
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To: exmarine
" . . . who will be doing the colliding? Christians vs. secularists?"

It will be a showdown between global law and U.S. liberties. Not certain who the end-game players will be, but I suspect it will be We the People vs our elected officials and judiciary who are allowing the Constitution and our Sovereignty to morph into an internationally-controlled nation. (Read, handful of world-class elites.)

55 posted on 01/21/2004 11:53:36 AM PST by Eastbound
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To: Jeff Head; Travis McGee
FYI. Developing.
56 posted on 01/21/2004 12:07:35 PM PST by Eastbound
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To: Ff--150
See that's why I maintain that the USA has been taken over by an oligarchy, because folks were placed in political power with the same wharped mentality as that DU troll had, making it impossible for the sensible to reason with the insensible.

Yes, common sense has been stood on its' head. What else could explain 1 atheist having MORE rights than 280 million others.

During this squabbling between the logical and illogical the oligarchy worked behind the scenes to subvert the Constitution.

Judicial activism gave us abortion on demand, removed God and the Bible from our schools and public venues. Today they don't need an amendment to subvert the Constiutution - this forum is full of those that willingly would do the same when a "conservative" does it. If I disagree I'll try to change it by amendment, not by fiat, and certainly not by an oligarchy that presumes itself to be above the law.

57 posted on 01/21/2004 12:38:15 PM PST by 4CJ (||) Dialing 911 doesn't stop a crime - a .45 does. (||)
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To: Eastbound
It will be a showdown between global law and U.S. liberties

If you break any political, cultural or legal battle down, the battle is a battle of worldviews at its root; between the judeo-chrstian worldview and the secular-humanist worldview. The JC worldview holds that God is the Creator of all things, that human beings are created in His image and have intrinsic worth, that life, liberty come from God. The secular-humanist worldview is the polar opposite and holds that there is no God, that all life evolved, that all reality can be reduced to material particles, that human life has no intrinsic worth, and that Christianity is just superstitious nonsense. Government, law, and society will be dominated by one or the other, but the two do not mix!

With that in mind, all Christians are obligated to adhere to the Christian worldview in all they do - all of life is spiritual, including our vote. We must vote for Christians as our leaders (as John Jay said) because the irreligious do not have the moral compass, and in many instances, act as our enemies. As you well know, secular humanists are acting on their worldview. For Christians, the question is: ARE WE? So far, the answer is most definitely NOT.

58 posted on 01/21/2004 1:03:49 PM PST by exmarine ( sic semper tyrannis)
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To: exmarine
Well said, and good ending question. The Christian ethic is the only one that fosters independent thinking, self-responsibility, self-governance, acquiescece to that 'still small voice' within, and a sincere desire to be at peace with your neighbor. It also does not brook dalliance with our liberties by government or anyone else.

If it is, in the final analysis, a numbers game between Christians and non-Christians in the political arena, I wonder what the result would be if all Christians voted for Christian-only candidates? Not certain what the demographics are, but I wonder if Christians would be outnumbered at this point, or if the battle is already lost, so far as national and global politics and the judiciary is concerned?

59 posted on 01/21/2004 2:51:01 PM PST by Eastbound
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To: will1776
"I fail to see how this would fall under the establishment clause. This is the free exercise clause."

I'm in complete agreement on this one; it's absolutely free exercise. As an atheist, I see it as more of a nice way of saying "goodbye" than it is a prayer.

"Go in peace in Jesus'/Allah's/Buddha's/Odin's name" would be another matter altogether.

60 posted on 01/21/2004 3:00:34 PM PST by jde1953
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