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Conservatives grumbling at Bush
Reuters ^ | 01/21/04

Posted on 01/21/2004 12:14:21 PM PST by Pokey78

Edited on 04/29/2004 2:03:44 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Analysts at Cato, Heritage, Club for Growth unconvinced by Bush's pledge to cut deficit.

WASHINGTON, Jan 21 (Reuters) - U.S. President George W. Bush faced open rebellion on Wednesday from some members of his fiscal conservative base for not laying out concrete plans to reduce government spending and the budget deficit.


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To: Dane
With such vociferous support, I confidently predict the two party system (scam) will go on another 140...

If the globalists are slow perhaps...another can another thread...
361 posted on 01/21/2004 4:24:36 PM PST by BiffWondercat
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To: Luis Gonzalez; Howlin; My2Cents; Wolfstar; CWOJackson; Mo1; Tamsey; PhiKapMom; gatorbait; ...
Let me quote from today's editorial in the San Deigo Union-Trib:

"Despite the start of what is likely to become a bruising re-election battle, George W. Bush delivered his State of the Union address last night with the highest approval ratings of any president at this point in his term since Dwight Eisenhower in 1956."

362 posted on 01/21/2004 4:29:39 PM PST by onyx (Your secrets are safe with me and all my friends.)
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To: Texas_Dawg
Don't worry, Bush is leading handily in the polls as he has for his entire post-9/11 Presidency.

Then why the rabid attack of all who are unhappy with some of GW's
positions, apparently he is unbeatable according to you and the polls.

Move on to something constructive like recruiting new believer.

363 posted on 01/21/2004 4:31:42 PM PST by itsahoot (The lesser of two evils, is evil still...Alan Keyes)
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To: IGOTMINE
I thought this was supposed to be a conservative board, not a Republican party megaphone.

Not hardly (using my best John Wayne impression)

364 posted on 01/21/2004 4:49:02 PM PST by itsahoot (The lesser of two evils, is evil still...Alan Keyes)
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To: Howlin
why do you keep TELLING us about it. Once is enough.

Would you abide by that rule yourself? Hmnnn

365 posted on 01/21/2004 4:56:29 PM PST by itsahoot (The lesser of two evils, is evil still...Alan Keyes)
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To: itsahoot
I'll be glad to.
366 posted on 01/21/2004 4:57:32 PM PST by Howlin
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To: axel f
If judges insist on forcing their arbitrary will upon the people, the only alternative left to the people would be the constitutional process. Our Nation must defend the sanctity of marriage.

About as effective as a bedraggled parent telling a kid "If you do that one more time, I am going to spank you."

367 posted on 01/21/2004 5:00:55 PM PST by itsahoot (The lesser of two evils, is evil still...Alan Keyes)
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To: onyx
As I've already mentioned, that was a remarkably conservative speech, overall. Bears remembering.
368 posted on 01/21/2004 5:01:42 PM PST by Wolfstar (George W. Bush — the 1st truly great world leader of the 21st Century)
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To: exmarine
>> Using that logic, you cannot be blamed for standing idly by watching someone get beat to death. You aren't doing the beating.

Another fallacy...false analogy. A vote cannot be compared to a life-threatening crime that requires life-saving action. Try again.

Sorry, but it is neither fallacy or false analogy. The variation is only in degree of "evil" being perpetrated. You are guilty of the sin of ommision when you stand by and allow evil to flourish when you posses the power to thwart it in even some degree. All evil requires to succeed is that good men stand by and do nothing.

369 posted on 01/21/2004 5:02:40 PM PST by CMAC51
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To: k2blader
Gawy is the leader of the Dean/Kerry wing of Free Republic, he gets his stuff right from his handlers.
370 posted on 01/21/2004 5:03:35 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
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To: MissAmericanPie
Dear Miss Pie,

You quote Vincente Fox: "This is just the begining, we will end that border, and unite into one federation with the United States and Canada, we will standardize wages. Eventually all of S. America will join us."

We have discussed this before but there doesn't seem to be anyone else on this site who understands the "why" of the immigration issue. I see people figuring Bush is simply pandering to hispanics for votes or supplying cheap labor for his business constituents or even suggest it's just bad advise from Rove. They do not seem to understand that the elites of this country (including so called conservatives) do not believe in the nation state and that means even the US of A. The two party system is a sham. Sure there are real differences but only on the inconsequential stuff. When it comes to pursuing the globalist/corporate interests or the dissolving of the nation there is one vision, one unified action. If anything the GOP will be more efficient than the Dems at pursuing the demise of the country and the dumb flag waving yahoos around here fully support them because they aren't Democrats. They think by supporting the GOP they are helping "conserve" the country. They are sheep sharpening the knives for their butcher.

cordially,

371 posted on 01/21/2004 5:04:30 PM PST by u-89 (our future is Oceana, Europe's is Eurasia, China is Eastasia. 1984 was 30 years ahead of schedule)
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To: onyx
Thanks for clarifying this, onyx. I've seen all over FR the claim that Bush is either right at, or behind, where his father was, approval-wise, at this point in 1992. Clearly, that claim is a lie, but what should we expect from those who seem to complain more about GW Bush then they do about Kerry, Dean, Edwards, and the other Dems.
372 posted on 01/21/2004 5:07:24 PM PST by My2Cents ("Failure is not an option.")
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To: Texas_Dawg
If you're so sure, why the vehement rage at people, such as RiflemanSharpe, who point out the obvious truth that a vote for Bush is a vote for a Democrat, except with "blah blah blah God blah blah" tacked on to the end?
373 posted on 01/21/2004 5:10:31 PM PST by TheAngryClam (Don't blame me, I voted for McClintock.)
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To: Wolfstar
As I've already mentioned, that was a remarkably conservative speech

I've wondered about those who tend to ignore all of the conservative tendencies of Pres. Bush, while focusing on the single-issue they disagree with him on and making that the sole criterion for how they will vote this year. I think there is a name for such a strident focus on a single issue while ignoring the overall picture -- it's called "obsessive-complusive" behavior.

374 posted on 01/21/2004 5:10:54 PM PST by My2Cents ("Failure is not an option.")
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To: u-89; Howlin
When it comes to pursuing the globalist/corporate interests or the dissolving of the nation there is one vision, one unified action. If anything the GOP will be more efficient than the Dems at pursuing the demise of the country and the dumb flag waving yahoos around here fully support them because they aren't Democrats

Listen up, buster!

Your characterization is a damned joke, given your Birchite "globalist/corporate" swallow-the-conspiracies language.

Do you know how foolish you appear?

375 posted on 01/21/2004 5:11:41 PM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
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To: sinkspur
Now who was it that was looking for the ugly face of the conservative movement? They need to see that.

Dumb flag waving?
376 posted on 01/21/2004 5:14:00 PM PST by Howlin
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To: My2Cents
" I think there is a name for such a strident focus on a single issue while ignoring the overall picture -- it's called 'obsessive-complusive' behavior."

Hot Button "Single" Issues:

1) Abortion

2) Guns

3) American Sovereignty

Another of the other two do it for you?

377 posted on 01/21/2004 5:16:18 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: u-89; americanbychoice; OldFriend; Texasforever; Hutch; Owen_S; nopardons; My2Cents
Hey, check out this one. #371.

You're a "dumb flag-waving yahoo". This from a Bircher, who believes in a "corporate global conspiracy" to take over the worlddddddd!!!!!

378 posted on 01/21/2004 5:17:44 PM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
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To: sinkspur
Your characterization is a damned joke, given your Birchite "globalist/corporate" swallow-the-conspiracies language

In about a decade (maybe less) you are going to be crying in your Tampico. "We never saw it coming"...

379 posted on 01/21/2004 5:18:19 PM PST by riri
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To: TheAngryClam; Wolfstar; onyx
a vote for Bush is a vote for a Democrat

It probably isn't worth mentioning, since it's like throwing pebbles at a brick wall (or any other hard and thick object), but when was the last time you saw a Democrat reflect these positions? --

For a brief, quick list, George W. Bush has been very much a conservative in his:

Response to the 9/11 and anthrax attacks.
Policy on abortion.
Attempts to reintroduce accountability into the public schools.
Willingness to reintroduce religious expression into public dialog.
Introduction of medical savings accounts and choices of Medicare plans in an effort to control costs.
Backing for the introduction of some Social Security privatization.
Willingness to at least attempt to get government to stop discriminating against religious charities.
Tax policy.
Willingness to defend marriage as a union between one man and one woman.
Defense of Israel by acknowleding her right to self-defense and refusing to interfere in her attempts to protect her citizens.
Management of the military.
Management of homeland/national security.
Willingness to tell the UN to take a flying leap.
Refusal to give in to internationalists who want a veto over American foreign policy.
Withdrawal of Clinton's signature on the International Criminal Court treaty.
Withdrawal of the U.S. from the Kyoto accords.

I have serious concerns about people who have such evidence in the front of their faces, and yet they refuse, or are unable to see it. Is it that they simply want to rage for the sake of rage? If so, is their distain for Pres. Bush really indicative of something other than ideological disagreement? Could it be emotional instability and unresolved issues with their father which makes them go on-and-on as they do? Whatever the reason, their behavior isn't normal.

380 posted on 01/21/2004 5:20:38 PM PST by My2Cents ("Failure is not an option.")
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