Conservatives grumbling at Bush

Reuters ^ | 01/21/04

[Pokey78]

Analysts at Cato, Heritage, Club for Growth unconvinced by Bush's pledge to cut deficit.

WASHINGTON, Jan 21 (Reuters) - U.S. President George W. Bush faced open rebellion on Wednesday from some members of his fiscal conservative base for not laying out concrete plans to reduce government spending and the budget deficit.

[TheAngryClam]

You don't need to be in the Supreme Court to intervene or file additional articles with the court.

[RiflemanSharpe]

I Will vote conservative, as of late GWB is not a conservative. I would rather send my vote to a third party that has no real chance of winning the support a liberal.

[RiflemanSharpe]

I hope to send a message to the reps that they cannot take the conservatives for granted and they will have to listen to us if they want to win.

[riri]

When do we get the stories about the white buses with UN emblems? You know, the ones that will take us to the camps?

Been taking the same 24 hour crash course on Slash and Burn Tactics that Texas_Dawg has been taking? Don't forget the references to bunkers, spam, militias, White 'Murrican's and black helicopters.

Funny, how you guys almost lose all that compassion and tolerance when trying to paint that stereotype.

[Consort]

Of course, but no matter how big or small government gets, I don't want Democrats controlling any part of it. Fragmenting Conservatives across several assorted parties would be counterproductive. Unfortunately, it looks like government will continue to grow...it's the nature of the beast. Any third parties that gain power will do what the major parties are now doing to retain and grow their power.

[RiflemanSharpe]

What has keeping the conservative power in the rep party doing for us now. I have my doubts.

[RiflemanSharpe]

What has keeping the conservative power in the rep party doing for us now. I have my doubts.

[u-89]

>Speaking of hacks...

Year in year out you rally behind the establishment GOP on any and all issues. You have a long pattern and I am far from the first to mention it. I assumed you had to be on the payroll as it takes up so much of your time. Seems a waste to do your shilling pro bono.

On the other hand I have never been accused of shilling for anyone but as a strict constitutionalist and champion of liberty I'd trust the Birchers take on anything over the GOP establishment as the latter displays no appreciation for liberty or the constitution. And just for the record none of my assertions about the not so distant future Western Hempisheric Bloc came from The NA.

cordially,

[RiflemanSharpe]

Sorry about the double post

[Consort]

I hope to send a message to the reps that they cannot take the conservatives for granted and they will have to listen to us if they want to win.

Understandable, but it looks like the GOP is moving to the middle where they apparently think many more votes are. Sending a message often means trying to teach them a lesson, and that's when the trouble begins and the bad guys win.

[Consort]

What has keeping the conservative power in the rep party doing for us now. I have my doubts.

What would it do for us if it's spread across a bunch of minor league parties? It's the voters who decide if more or fewer Conservatives are elected.

[RiflemanSharpe]

I fail to see the difference between the two parties anymore.

[Merdoug]

Okay, how far left must the Republican party go before you will stop voting for them? When the Democrats become pure socialists and the GOP are where the dems are now? How far can the GOP push you before you decide that it's time for a change? When you get NO conservative agenda passed? Clinton passed the welfare "control"; almost as much as Bush has done conservativly. Where is the difference in the parties? We get a Republican controlled federal government and we get next to NOTHING done for us.

[My2Cents]

Your gas is getting tedious.

FACT: George W. Bush is not the greatest threat to conservative principles in America today.

FACT: The Democrats ARE the greatest threat to conservative principles in America today.

FACT: George W. Bush's re-election is the ONLY defense against a new onslaught of leftist ideology in the halls of government, in our courts, and in American society.

FACT: I think it's pretty well established that most of the naysayers on FR these days are 1) disruptors from the DNC who pretend to be Republicans who bash Bush; 2) disruptors from DU who pretend to be conservatives who bash Bush; 3) disgruntled Buchanan supporters who still hope that Pat hijacks the conservative movement and carries it back to the 1930s and '40s, and to about 15% of the US electorate; 4) the terminally crumudgeonly; 5) those who are still ticked off that most Freepers didn't support Tom McClintock in the California recall.

FACT: The naysayers spend more time trashing George W. Bush than they do trashing John Kerry, Howard Dean, John Edwards, or any of the other Democrats (which should tell you something).

FACT: I predicted back in September that the very same people who attempted to destroy the Republicans' chances of replacing Gray Davis would be sharpening their knives to destroy George W. Bush in the new year, and my prediction has proven correct -- you are precisely the same people, making the same tired arguments, but now targeting them at Bush instead of Arnold.

FACT: It's fine to disagree with Bush on any one or number of policies, but we've rounded the corner in this election cycle and now is the time for all conservatives to emphasize what they support about Bush's Presidency, rather than tear at each other over one or two single issues.

FACT: The Bush-bashers haven't said anything new in weeks; it's the same old mantra.

FACT: Jim Robinson has repeatedly made clear that, yes, this is a conservative discussion site, AND that it supports the re-election of Pres. Bush, supports the war on terror, supports the effort in Iraq, supports the President's judicial nominees, supports (in general) increasing the Republican majorities in Congress, all as the most practical means of correcting largely 60 years of leftist tilt in this nation. And...

FACT: These incessant criticisms of Bush go way beyond honest disagreements on policy, but have taken on an emotional edge which suggests that those who continue to gnaw on this particular bone suffer from the inability to step back, take a deep breath, and actually contribute something positive to the discussions on FR in particular, or the conservative movement in general.

Have I made myself clear?

[Merdoug]

If it is true that this is a Republican, and not a conservative forum, then I ask for an administrator to confirm this and I will go looking for a true conservative forum and leave FR.

[TheAngryClam]

FACT: you've essentially said "forget all the reasons that Bush isn't a conservative, and vote for him anyway."

BAAAAAAAH! You're showing what a sheep you are.

[Merdoug]

How does one contact Jim Robinson? I want to confirm what 2centsworth just wrote.
Thanks!

[fatso]

That alien "rights" trump citizen rights, means nothing. That illegals' "rights" trump the fact that citizens must pay the bill for their contagion, means nothing.

It appears that American citizens have no rights because our rights are up for grabs – free ID, loans, education, Social Security, welfare, drivers' licenses, voting.

[TheAngryClam]

Just ping or Freepmail him. His FR name is "Jim Robinson" after all.

[Consort]

The GOP can be more or less conservative depending on how many conservatives are elected. Bush's successor may be more or less conservative than he is. I don't think any conservatives will be elected in the Democrat party, or in any third party at this time.

We get a Republican controlled federal government and we get next to NOTHING done for us.

With the bureaucracy, academia, the legal profession, labor, much of the media, etc dominated by Liberals, what party is going to do any better?