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To: Gritty
The middle class in this country is in trouble. Politically, that means the Republicans are also in trouble, and much more so than they think.

I'm by no means a class warrior, but riddle me this: Just whose fault is it that a company and its employees are sufferering because of that company's bad business decisions?


43 posted on 01/22/2004 6:17:07 AM PST by rdb3 (If Jesse Jack$on and I meet, face to face, it's gonna be a misunderstanding...)
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To: rdb3
The point is that due to the crappy business environment in NY, there is nothing to fill the void left when a company leaves.

The only area in the state that is viable economically is NYC and the nearby suburbs. The rest of the state either works for the government or depends on it.
55 posted on 01/22/2004 7:42:37 AM PST by NY.SS-Bar9
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To: rdb3
Just whose fault is it that a company and its employees are sufferering because of that company's bad business decisions?

I'm long past the time when I thought political decisions, such as voting, was based on rational decision making. People are going to look at their economy in shambles and want a change.
69 posted on 01/22/2004 9:08:46 AM PST by lelio
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To: rdb3
Just whose fault is it that a company and its employees are sufferering because of that company's bad business decisions?

Maybe you didn't read my post? I said nothing at all about Kodak or any other company. I was referring to the big picture of American jobs, and especially New York jobs - if there remains such a thing being created other than New York government jobs or welfare.

Companies which make habitually bad business decisions deserve go out of business, and usually will. But there are other reasons to go out of business than "bad" business decisions; overwhelming government regulations, confiscatory tax structures, impossible environmental laws, greedy and bloodsucking labor unions, criminality and graft, a decayed infrastucture, lack of demand, failure to modernise, the death of a supplier base,... just to name a few.

(from your later message)...Yep. Too much government will kill the business environment, one way or the other (Left/Right).

Yes, too much government can kill the business environment and New York State is a poster child of that very phenomenon. There are other reasons, too, including lousy management and labor unions. But, government taxation, over-regulation and law are something the government (we the people?) supposedly control. Too often, a successful business climate is the lowest priority of all for government. It (we) is too often busy feathering the nests of other special interests and seeing business as merely a handy cash cow to milk.

You can't continue to beat the goose that lays the golden egg and expect it to stick around if it has a viable option, whether it is a business or a taxpayer.

71 posted on 01/22/2004 9:14:24 AM PST by Gritty ("I have little interest in streamlining government. I mean to reduce it's size"-Barry Goldwater)
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To: rdb3
Kodak didn't make a bad business decision, they finally made the right one.
As for upstate new york, Didn't I hear Hillary scream that she would bring jobs and prosperity to that region? She apparently wasn't listening hard enough. Blame the republicans for Hillaries lies, I guess you are a devout liberal?
124 posted on 01/22/2004 4:12:21 PM PST by americanbychoice
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To: rdb3
You're right of course but voters aren't always logical. When a man is sitting at home with no job and he's looking at financial ruin and the end of his marriage (love dies when the rent aint paid)he gets a little crazy. Blaming the current administration would be the easiest cop out in the world.
172 posted on 01/23/2004 9:52:42 PM PST by thathamiltonwoman
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