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To: Greg Luzinski
Wow, talk about Socialist claptrap! Don't worry, you're all to stupid so we'll just decide what's best for you...
2 posted on 01/22/2004 12:56:07 PM PST by cspackler (There are 10 kinds of people in this world, those who understand binary and those who don't.)
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To: cspackler; Greg Luzinski; newgeezer; browardchad; All
Social "Security"...The social engineers who have our health care/disability system in place want this system. Their jobs depend on it......let me tell you what happens to people who ”resist” using the “system”.

In 1974, I was a passenger in an auto accident on a freeway...pre seat belt. Double fractured pelvis, healed unlevel...was not pined, ignored because of the serious head injury with vision loss, speech loss, dislocated knee, neck injury. I was allowed 10 wks. from work(without pay) or lose my job. So, on crutches, braces and pain meds, I returned to work. For the next 25 years, when I could physically no longer do one job, I would find other work. I did not want to use tax dollars to further my education...I was taught you do ANYTHING before going on the government dole. I raised my kids, alone, and paid for our home, never with government help. After 2 more back injuries, 2 more knee dislocations, I could only work part time and by 1996 I could no longer do that. I applied for SS disability. Turned down. Reapplied, turned down.. I have a autoimmune disease as well (diagnosed with biopsy, 1972), ulcers, recurring field of vision loss, migraines, etc.

The SSA says I am not disabled at 56 years and can get work, because I have so much “experience” and good references. I can’t even drive any longer. Yes, I know I need an attorney....they want paid up front, regardless of what the SSA says and they all want new MRI’s, xrays, etc...because all records over 7 to 10 years are destroyed. I was forced sell my home of 30 years last may and now live in another state. I quality for NOTHING. The last time I was in the SSA office, 4 hispanic’s were there, with our tax paid interpreter to change their address for their checks. 2 of them were obese. Unless one is illiterate, have never tried to work, obese, or “depressed” you just don’t fit into the “ qualified” category. Oh, yes, and you won’t believe this, no one else does...if you have not paid into SS for 5 years, it is gone....no disability, no matter how many years you worked and paid into it...check www.ssa.gov. But, SSI, the “welfare” portion needs never to be paid into and medicare is immediate for them. The SSDI program, we pay into, when “awarded” disability you must wait for 2 years for medicare. For instance: You are 45 years old. Your parents are ill and you have to quit your 20 year job to take care of them for the next five years (this also happened to me!) At age 50, you get hit by a truck and can’t move, much less work...guess what...you have no disability!! You waited TOO long! But, after you lose everything, you may qualify for SSI, along with the dredges of society.

The “system” needs an enema. Here’s the real rub. No one in the SSA, their contract employees, or our legislators will ever have to combat this system. They have another retirement/disability system. Judged by my peers. I think not. One SSA employee actually told me that my "mistake" was not filing for disabiity at age 25 in 1974!

I hope you all will consider signing the petition to reform Social Security Disability at: http://www.petitiononline.com/SSDC/petition.html

6 posted on 01/22/2004 1:25:04 PM PST by AuntB (REFORM SS DISABILITY: http://www.petitiononline.com/SSDC/petition.html)
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To: cspackler
401K is a sham anyhow....SHAM!!!
Most that can put into it that are middle class can only afford to put in so much as some have families. Those older that have been laid off? Well it is far to late for them to put into 401K, hopefully they were saving for retirement.

Big corporations set into place 401K so they could get out of offering their most faithful employees a nice company retirement....plain and simple.

It makes it easier for fat cat CEO's to get off cheap then to provide a nice retirement for their hard workers.

Gone are the days in which my Father and grandfather are living off a nice pension every month from General Motors. If they should die before their wives they get the same monthly check until they die.

GM now? 401K like all other businesses.
401K is a TOTAL SHAM
7 posted on 01/22/2004 1:25:46 PM PST by AbsoluteJustice (By the time you read this 100 other Freepers will have posted what I have said here!)
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