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Great News for Criminals: Socialist Brazil Bans Handguns
NewsMax.com ^ | Thursday, Jan. 22, 2004 | Jon E. Dougherty

Posted on 01/23/2004 4:14:39 AM PST by tberry

In an effort to trim its high murder rate, Brazil's government has virtually outlawed possession of handguns in public by almost everyone, with the exception of police, soldiers, prison guards and security officers. The law, which took effect shortly before Christmas, is being hailed by opponents of gun rights as a bold new social experiment they hope will reduce murder rates. However, other countries that have tried this not-so-new type of "bold social experiment" have had unhappy results.

· Nations that have severely restricted and banned firearms have seen their crime rates increase. The United Kingdom, after banning ownership and possession of most guns in 1997, saw its crime and murder rates skyrocket, according to government figures. The same phenomenon occurred in Australia.

· Socialist Sweden, despite its peacenick reputation and attacks on gun rights, has a higher murder rate than the United States, Interpol has revealed.

· In the U.S., a sweeping federal review of anti-gun laws has found no evidence they reduce violence.

· An Aug. 5, 2000 study by the Journal of the American Medical Association found the Brady law had not affected the number of gun homicides, though supporters promised it would when it was passed during the Clinton administration in the mid-1990s.

· In Canada, a disastrous attempt at requiring registration of guns has been a boondoggle costing $1 billion and rising.

In Brazil, authorities have also implemented tough new measures against anyone engaging in illegal sales of weapons. Such offenders now face lengthy prison terms with no bail.

The law also raises the minimum age of gun ownership from 21 to 25, and requires every gun buyer to be subjected to a background check.

Meanwhile, a report in the New York Times said, all other gun owners are being informed they will likely have to turn in their weapons within six months. And socialist President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva, who signed what officials are calling the disarmament act Dec. 23, is also planning a national referendum in 2005, in which voters will decide on a ban on all handgun sales in Brazil.

"This is an expression of the unanimous will of society to cut the spiral of violence that unsettles us and embarrasses us before humanity," Lula da Silva said when signing the bill.

A homicide occurs in his country about once every 12 minutes, said the president, and "this statute is certainly not the solution to everything, but it is an exceptional step forward."

Brazil, a country of about 182 million people, has more murders by firearm annually – roughly 40,000, the Washington Post reports – than the United States, with a population of 292 million (the U.S. firearms murder rate in 2003 was about 29,000, the paper said).

And, despite opposition to the new rules by Brazilian gun rights groups and National Rifle Association, polls there indicate most people – 80 percent – support both new rules. Sixty-seven percent said they supported a ban on the ownership of all guns. Gun rights groups lobbied lawmakers hard to reject the bill.

Officials in Brazil say that about 2 million guns are legally registered but that the number of unregistered guns in a country larger than the contiguous 48 United States is as high as 20 million.

'Mercy of the Criminals'

Gun makers in Brazil and elsewhere say criminals will continue to buy firearms on the black market or will smuggle them in, meaning the new rules will leave the law-abiding public unarmed and vulnerable.

"Brazil, which is struggling for equality, has just passed a law that leaves the poor at the mercy of the criminals," said Renato Conil, a vice president at Forjas Taurus, Brazil's largest gun-maker. "Now it's only the victim that will be disarmed."

But gun control supporters said claims by opponents that the law will have no effect on the black market industry argue a third of the 77,000 weapons seized by police since 1951 were purchased legally.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; brazil; crime; gun; law
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1 posted on 01/23/2004 4:14:40 AM PST by tberry
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To: Caipirabob
Pingão.
2 posted on 01/23/2004 4:17:28 AM PST by martin_fierro (Uneasy in my easy chair)
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To: martin_fierro
Oi, Martin!

I just sent this very post to one of my friends (uma Paulista.) We've been going at each other over a lot of differences recently. I never realized how much she was willing to embrace socialism. When I pointed out the obvious failures, well, you know the temper they can have.

We got into over the "photo ID" issue. She said it's probably not to smart to pursue a policy when so many people are against it, and my retort was that "Yeah, but those people who are against it don't live in this country and hate America to begin with, why would we even consider their opinion?". She didn't like that.

She went on to say, "Well, now Americans can know what it feels like" and I was compelled to retort that if it was in the interest of National Security, then by all means we should all work together to comply. However, in this instance there was a Federalista Judge somewhere in some Bumf*ck estado in Brasil who decided we (Americans) were Nazis for implementing such policy. He implemented the procedure as a retalitory measure which was as petti and as small of an response as I could imagine coming from a government official.

I topped that statement off with the devastating "What can I say to something like that? 'INVEJA E MERDE'"...

We ended the conversation before blood could flow. ; )

Oh well, I have other Brasilian friends...

3 posted on 01/23/2004 4:29:05 AM PST by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: *bang_list
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4 posted on 01/23/2004 4:38:07 AM PST by tberry
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To: tberry
When guns are banned you can bet the third way fascio-socialists will still have theirs
You will be the one left without a gun or a means to resist...criminals or them

That's the reality of the socialist plan...while promising lowering crime and protecting children
is their holy mantra it's only to get you to disarm willingly & without a fight

They will promise peace and safety all you have to do is give up freedom.....in the end you get neither

They lie
5 posted on 01/23/2004 5:10:53 AM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: tberry
And socialist President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva, who signed what officials are calling the disarmament act Dec. 23, is also planning a national referendum in 2005, in which voters will decide on a ban on all handgun sales in Brazil.

Wonder who will supply the voting machines and personnel for this vote...Broward County democraps?

6 posted on 01/23/2004 5:14:18 AM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: tberry
They'll pass the law and then confiscate the weapons. Then comes the fun part, the standard excuses. As the murder rate skyrockets after many honest citizens have turned in their handguns, the politicians will begin tinkering with the data. Gunshot murders will be coded as "cause unknown" and "new" laws proposed to solve the problem. There will be gun buybacks with millions of dollars wasted/stolen to buy a couple of hundred weapons not in working order and the politicians will pat themselves on the back. There will be great pressure on the media not to talk about all the murders; "it sets the wrong tone" and the media will comply. And, here and there, the neocommunists will scream that gun laws reduced crime and the US must follow the broad international lead, no matter what the numbers prove. Bunk!!
7 posted on 01/23/2004 5:30:07 AM PST by Tacis
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To: tberry
Please forgive a slightly off topic post:

I just bought a TC Hawken Rifle and was joking with a friend about the relative safety of them and said that the last time a murder was committed with a black powder firearm was probably the Lincoln assassination.

I realize that someone may still hit someone over the head with a CVA rifle, but does anyone know of the last high profile crime in the US committed with a Black powder firearm?

Please forgive my off topic thirst for trivia.

8 posted on 01/23/2004 5:45:43 AM PST by tcostell
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To: tberry
the U.S. firearms murder rate in 2003 was about 29,000, the [Washington ComPost] said).

Two lies in one, from the Washington ComPost! First, 30,000 is the US rate for all gun deaths, homicides, suicides, and accidents combined. Suicides are more than half that number. The number of firearm "homicides" is about 10,000, give or take, but this number includes justifiable homicides as well as murders, and includes killings by law enforcement officers. I don't know how many homicides are justifiable compared to the total, but I do know that it is a lie to say that all homicides are murders. The ComPost went one further than that, and has called all deaths in total, murders. Which is typical and to be expected from this pack of leftist scumbags.

More surprising is that NewsMax passed along the report without comment or correction.

9 posted on 01/23/2004 7:49:52 AM PST by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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To: tberry
They never learn, do they?
10 posted on 01/23/2004 8:07:06 AM PST by pabianice
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