Oops, nearly forgot this part of your post. I support the President. While there are a couple of areas that I don't see eye to eye on with him at this point my support continues to outweigh my disagreements.
Most of these sort of threads have become just more fodder for the chronic arm-chair-critic complainers and DU trolls who wander the halls of FR. They post the same old trash, over and over, with no new ideas, nothing positive just CARP, CARP, CARP. It's boring. And suspect IMO especially with a line such as I originally objected to from Goldberg.
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I suspect there are a lot of trolls involved in these threads. I think they are taking things upon which people can reasonably disagree or which need more discussion and clarification and trying to provoke hysteria, so that the general perception will be that "conservatives" also hate Bush. Nice try, and of course, they're finding a lot of gullible folks eager to be stirred up.
"DU Trolls"?? Really??
You are clueless. Totally.
And if you are so "bored," then why do you troll "these kind of threads"?
Do yourself a favor -- stay put at the FR Nuremburg Rally threads. There you can swing your pom-poms without the distraction of debating any issue whatsoever.