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Why You Should Support Bush's Immigration Proposal
GOPUSA ^ | 01.23.04 | J. Max Wilson

Posted on 01/23/2004 4:37:58 PM PST by Beck_isright

Critics of President Bush's immigration reform proposal have been so quick to label it an amnesty plan in sheep's clothing that they have missed the subtle brilliance of his approach to a very complex problem. Let's look at some of the complex issues of illegal immigration and evaluate the President's proposal in relation to them.

Contrary to what many pundits seem concerned with, the main problem with illegal immigration in the United States is not its influence on the job market but its relationship to organized crime. In an article for the City-Journal's Winter 2004 edition entitled "The Illegal-Alien Crime Wave," Heather Mac Donald provides an in-depth and disturbing look at this relationship:

"95 percent of all outstanding warrants for homicide in L.A., which total 1,200 to 1,500, target illegal aliens and up to two-thirds of all fugitive felony warrants (17,000) are for illegal aliens."

"A confidential California Department of Justice study reported in 1995 that 60 percent of the 20,000-strong 18th Street Gang in southern California is illegal; police officers say the proportion is actually much greater. The bloody gang collaborates with the Mexican Mafia, the dominant force in California prisons, on complex drug-distribution schemes, extortion, and drive-by assassinations, and commits an assault or robbery every day in L.A. County. The gang has grown dramatically over the last two decades by recruiting recently arrived youngsters, most of them illegal, from Central America and Mexico."

"The leadership of the Columbia Lil' Cycos gang, which uses murder and racketeering to control the drug market around L.A.'s MacArthur Park, was about 60 percent illegal in 2002, says former assistant U.S. attorney Luis Li. Francisco Martinez, a Mexican Mafia member and an illegal alien, controlled the gang from prison, while serving time for felonious reentry following deportation."

As if that weren't bad enough, in an article carried by the Salt Lake Tribune on December 18th, David Kelly gives us a chilling view of a new development in Arizona crime:

"Moving with the cunning and cruelty of modern-day pirates, gangs of kidnappers are swooping down on Arizona highways, attacking smugglers transporting undocumented immigrants and stealing their human cargo. The kidnappers stash the immigrants in hundreds of drop houses scattered around the city, using violence and threats to extort money from their relatives."

"Now smugglers are fighting back, shooting it out with kidnappers on sidewalks and freeways in broad daylight. A gunbattle last month between kidnappers and smugglers on Interstate 10 at the height of rush hour left four dead. Four others were killed this month in the desert near Phoenix; authorities blamed the deaths on violence between the two groups."

"Kidnappers let smugglers take all the risks of getting immigrants into the country, then rob them once they get here. When they can't intercept smugglers on the road, they snatch migrants from houses where they are known to be hiding. The new wave of violence has made this the deadliest year in Phoenix history with 247 homicides, edging out the previous high of 245 in 2001. Police say 60 percent of the city's crime is related to smuggling and kidnapping."

As these articles demonstrate, a significant portion of crime in our big cities is perpetuated by illegal immigrants. But, as you can also see from David Kelly's article, the victims of these crimes are often also illegal immigrants. This creates a disastrous situation because victims of these and other crimes will not report them for fear of being deported. Vast numbers of illegal immigrants suffer severe abuse, extortion, and virtual slavery at the hands of organized crime and cannot report it for fear of deportation. So the crimes go unreported and the criminals unstopped.

To counteract this problem, many local city governments have adopted "sanctuary policies." These city policies prohibit employees of local government, including law enforcement officers, from inquiring after the immigration status of anyone. Often, even if a police officer knows that a particular individual has entered the country illegally (a misdemeanor) or has previously been deported and has returned illegally (a felony) he or she is forbidden by city statute from arresting that person. Police officers are even forbidden from reporting known illegal immigrants to the federal authorities.

While these policies are supposedly adopted to protect the illegal immigrants who are victims of crime and encourage them to report crimes without the fear of deportation, they have the secondary effect of protecting criminals who are illegal immigrants as well. Even if the police know of an individual with connections to organized crime and a past criminal record, and they know that he is in the country illegally, they are forbidden from using his illegal status to arrest him and deport him. In fact, a police officer can face disciplinary action for arresting someone based upon their immigration status or for reporting them to the INS. Many crimes that might have been prevented by deporting known illegal immigrants are left undeterred because the police cannot use their illegal status to deport them until they have already been booked for a different felony.

Such policies blatantly undermine federal immigration law. Heather Mac Donald explains in her City-Journal article:

"Former mayor Rudolph Giuliani sued all the way up to the Supreme Court to defend the city's sanctuary policy against a 1996 federal law decreeing that cities could not prohibit their employees from cooperating with the INS. Oh yeah? said Giuliani; just watch me. The INS, he claimed, with what turned out to be grotesque irony, only aims to "terrorize people." Though he lost in court, he remained defiant to the end. On September 5, 2001, his handpicked charter-revision committee ruled that New York could still require that its employees keep immigration information confidential to preserve trust between immigrants and government. Six days later, several visa-overstayers participated in the most devastating attack on the city and the country in history."

After September 11th there was outrage over the failure of Federal agencies to prevent the tragedy. And yet the possible contribution of mayor Giuliani's New York City sanctuary policy to September 11th has not been discussed by the mainstream media. While it may be appropriate to inquire into the failures of the federal government in the September 11th attacks, shouldn't there be an equal amount of outrage and demand for investigation into the role of city sanctuary policies? And yet over two years later the majority of the population of the United States isn't even aware that such policies exist.

Despite federal law and September 11th, this outrageous situation is still very common. Sanctuary policies are in effect in at least eighteen cities, including New York, Chicago, San Diego, Los Angeles, Austin, Houston, Minneapolis, Baltimore, and Seattle and in two states, Alaska and Oregon.

Since 1998, the city of St. Paul Minnesota has had a police policy that prohibits officers from "independently undertaking to approach, interview, interrogate or arrest any suspected illegal alien" when the main issue is immigration status violation. And, amazingly, this very month, the St. Paul city council is considering adopting an additional measure known as the "INS/City Separation Ordinance."

Why have the sanctuary laws of our nation's largest cities been so ignored by the mainstream media? You would think that even if they were completely neglected in the aftermath of September 11th, they would at least be addressed in relation to President Bush's proposed changes to immigration. The relationship between illegal immigration, sanctuary policies, and organized crime should be a major issue. Yet the mainstream media is still largely silent on the matter. Instead, they spend hours of airtime, newsprint, and bandwidth discussing how Bush's proposal will affect jobs, and whether it will encourage more illegal immigration. I suspect the media's silence is largely due to political correctness. To discuss any relationship between illegal immigration and crime would be labeled "racist" by the media language police faster than you can say "Francisco Martinez."

There is another group that also deserves a portion of the blame pie. The readiness of U.S. businesses to break the law by employing undocumented workers for the sake of avoiding taxes and paying lower wages is deplorable. If U.S. businesses would uniformly refuse to hire illegal immigrants it would help discourage illegal immigration by taking away some of their motivation. The situation is exacerbated by current immigration policies. Because foreign workers can only work in the United States for a very limited duration, companies that hire foreigners and obey the law must hire new workers on a very frequent basis. That makes it more difficult for them to compete with companies that are willing to break the law and hire illegal immigrants and thereby avoid the extra expense of frequently hiring and training new employees, not to mention taxation, worker's compensation, insurance and minimum wages.

The greatest danger to our nation is, in part, the result of widespread lawbreaking by businesses and law nullification by city governments. Conservatives seem ready to condemn the illegal immigrants who come seeking work and often advocate the harshest punishments for them (i.e. shooting them at the border) while at the same time barely hand-slapping the lawbreaking businesses and ignoring city sanctuary policies designed to undermine federal immigration law. This hypocrisy contributes to the unfortunate impression that conservatives are racists.

Under these circumstances, it is simply impossible for the Federal Government to enforce immigration laws. Even if the cities and businesses were cooperating, there is no way the federal government could muster the manpower and the funds necessary to identify, capture, and deport the vast numbers of illegal immigrants and then keep them out.

The immigration system is clearly broken and casting the blame on the Federal government alone is a huge oversimplification and misdirection of energy. Critics of the failure of the U.S. to enforce its immigration laws should direct their ire toward local governments that are endangering our nation with their ill-conceived and illegal sanctuary law.

How does President Bush's proposal relate to this immigration headache?

Rather than develop a detailed, specific plan for immigration reform, Bush wisely proposed principles upon which reform must be based if it is to be successful:

1. "America must control its borders...America is acting on a basic belief: Our borders should be open to legal travel and honest trade; our borders should be shut and barred tight to criminals, to drug traders, drug traffickers and to criminals and to terrorists."

2. "New immigration laws should serve the economic needs of our country. If an American employer is offering a job that American citizens are not willing to take, we ought to welcome into our country a person who will fill that job."

3. "We should not give unfair rewards to illegal immigrants in the citizenship process or disadvantage those who came here lawfully or hope to do so."

4. "New laws should provide incentives for temporary foreign workers to return permanently to their home countries after their period of work in the United States has expired."

By focusing on principles rather than specific plans, Bush provides a much more realistic and flexible approach to reform. The principles remain constant while the specific implementation may change according to how well it adheres to those principles.

The first principle and primary concern is about controlling the borders. Currently, city and state sanctuary policies completely thwart any attempt to apply this principle. The cities justify their sanctuary laws as a necessary measure to allow illegal immigrants who are victims of crimes to report them without fear of deportation. By allowing undocumented workers to receive a legal, temporary worker status, Bush's proposal takes away that necessity and leaves city sanctuary policies without justification. Under Bush's plan anybody who has an honest employment would have temporary worker status. All remaining illegal immigrants, lacking honest employment, could be assumed to be criminals and police officers could demand immigration documentation from anyone and arrest and deport anyone based solely on their immigration status.



In his proposal, President Bush explained:

"Our homeland will be more secure when we can better account for those who enter our country."

"Instead of the current situation, in which millions of people are unknown, unknown to the law, law enforcement will face fewer problems with undocumented workers, and will be better able to focus on the true threats to our nation from criminals and terrorists."

"And when temporary workers can travel legally and freely, there will be more efficient management of our borders and more effective enforcement against those who pose a true threat to our country."

By eliminating the excuse for sanctuary policies, Bush's principle-based plan would then allow local law enforcement to freely cooperate with federal authorities to control our national borders. The Bush proposal makes it possible for federal immigration authorities to focus their limited resources on those who pose the greatest threat to our domestic security: organized criminals. Contrary to the characterization it has received, Bush's proposal allows for more strict enforcement of immigration law and greater control over our national borders by facilitating the repeal of city sanctuary laws.

A related benefit of Bush's proposal is that without city sanctuary policies, law enforcement officers who apprehend illegal immigrants would be able to more easily identify businesses that break the law. Any organization or company that continued to employ undocumented immigrants rather than temporary workers would be suspected of involvement in organized crime or of supporting terrorism and could be investigated and dismantled.

The implementation of Bush's immigration proposal could eliminate a significant amount of crime in our large cities. It could be a significant blow to crime organizations, drug and weapons trafficking, and organizations that covertly support terror. It could help us control our borders to keep criminals and terrorists out.

Bush's proposal is not a scheme to appeal to Hispanic voters. It is a well informed, strategic move calculated to undermine the forces that are currently preventing our immigration laws from being enforced and endangering our nation. Bush's proposal is a brilliant move in a complex chess game. We should support him and encourage our representatives to support his proposal.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; crime; illegalalien; immigrantlist; immigration; immigrationplan
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To: spunkets
I know and understand the situation in both places and in CA. CA and other States will lose a great number of them, because they are criminals, unemployed ect. and aren't particularly interested in changing.

But because GW hasn't told us how he intends to enforce the LAW where it involves those who aren't playing by the rules, you can understand why I'm skeptical, right?

THe feds aren't enforcing it now. Why should I believe the LAW will be enforced after GW's plan is enacted?

141 posted on 01/23/2004 7:01:36 PM PST by skeeter
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To: petertare
"a lack of political will."

The lack of political will is, because the police state solution is an affront to Freedom and decency. Now do you expect me to believe all those calling for a police state action would not themselves be driven to seek better opportunities and resent the very action they are calling for?

142 posted on 01/23/2004 7:02:14 PM PST by spunkets
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To: Bulldog1967
"I don't care HOW the GOP'ers spin this."

You should. If a 180 does not occur, a lot of true conservatives will sit 2004 out.
143 posted on 01/23/2004 7:03:00 PM PST by Beck_isright ("Those who stand for nothing fall for anything."-Alexander Hamilton)
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To: spunkets
The proposal allows for correction from this point on. Is that not worth something?>>>>>>>>

GEE, ya think we should offer this *same deal* to ALL AMERICAN criminals & tax evaders?? We could just make them *promise* not to do it again, then turm 'em LOOSE.

CORRECTION from now on ?? Kinda like a sort of AMNESTY, for the illegal employers ??

Then let's also REWARD the illegals by making them *legal*. (which is a PROVEN FACT that it only brings MILLIONS more, to wait for the NEXT REWARD)
144 posted on 01/23/2004 7:03:47 PM PST by txdoda ("Navy-brat")
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To: skeeter
"GW hasn't told us how he intends to enforce the LAW"

The Bush feds seem to be quite good at enforcing the laws they enacted and others they support w/o reservations. This is a call for correction to remove the reservations.

145 posted on 01/23/2004 7:05:25 PM PST by spunkets
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To: spunkets
"The Bush feds seem to be quite good at enforcing the laws they enacted and others they support w/o reservations."

Why not enforce the laws they were already sworn to uphold? You know, that pesky part 8 of the U.S. Constitution? Or did Klintoon repeal that?
146 posted on 01/23/2004 7:06:51 PM PST by Beck_isright ("Those who stand for nothing fall for anything."-Alexander Hamilton)
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To: quidnunc
FYI........Comments ??
147 posted on 01/23/2004 7:09:47 PM PST by Squantos (Salmon...the other pink meat !)
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To: txdoda
" GEE, ya think we should offer this *same deal* to ALL AMERICAN criminals & tax evaders?"

Nah, you're evading the fundamentals involved.

"Kinda like a sort of AMNESTY, for the illegal employers?"

Separate issue altogether. This proposal does nothing to render their actions passed, present, or future immune from prosecution. " Then let's also REWARD the illegals by making them *legal*."

THere's no reward for them. There is a reward for the country though to respect their work ethic.

"which is a PROVEN FACT that it only brings MILLIONS more

The proposal says, "MUST have demonstratable employment".

148 posted on 01/23/2004 7:11:56 PM PST by spunkets
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To: Beck_isright
I sent a link to this thread to the GOPUSA boys. Suggested they read the comments.

149 posted on 01/23/2004 7:12:48 PM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: supercat
That's my point. How is offering illegals something they're not going to take anyway a problem?>>>>>>>

Yeah, let's create ANOTHER HUGE, INEPT, gov't agency (taxpayer funded) just in the *event* that some illegals & their illegal employers *wish* to sign up.

Thanks, but I much rather my TAXDOLLARS be spent on enforcing our existing laws.


150 posted on 01/23/2004 7:13:50 PM PST by txdoda ("Navy-brat")
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To: Squantos
Squantos wrote: FYI........Comments ??

I agree that the issue of immigration needs to be addressed because we can't keep on with this status quo.

Unless we want to become as sclerotic as Europe we will need immigrants who are willing to work and eventually to become assimilated.

But I'm not going to get excited until I see a bill on the floor of Congress.

151 posted on 01/23/2004 7:15:46 PM PST by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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To: Beck_isright
" Why not enforce the laws they were already sworn to uphold? You know, that pesky part 8 of the U.S. Constitution?"

The reason is, because the executive and Congress finds the present situation unworkable and Congress hasn't and will not authorize the funds for a police state crackdown.

152 posted on 01/23/2004 7:18:55 PM PST by spunkets
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To: spunkets
The Bush feds seem to be quite good at enforcing the laws they enacted and others they support w/o reservations. This is a call for correction to remove the reservations.

In 94 the people of California voted to remove the safety net for illegal immigrants. GW went on record otherwise.

I remain skeptical, & believe the issue is too critical to the health of our republic to leave to politicians who think they know better than the people.

153 posted on 01/23/2004 7:19:04 PM PST by skeeter
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To: William Terrell
"I sent a link to this thread to the GOPUSA boys. Suggested they read the comments."

I doubt it. They are clueless. Rovianism is the rule of the day.
154 posted on 01/23/2004 7:19:22 PM PST by Beck_isright ("Those who stand for nothing fall for anything."-Alexander Hamilton)
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To: Beck_isright
There is a lot of good stuff in this article. The relationship of illegal immigration to organized crime...the failure of sanctuary policies...the widespread lawbreaking by employers today...all of this right on in my opinion.

I disagree with him in one respect. He says that President Bush's proposal is worthy of our whole-hearted support. But I think it is too vague and lacking in details for that. This author is filling in the blanks with enforcement provisions of his liking; just as some critics of the President imagine that there will be no enforcement because the President did not specify any.

155 posted on 01/23/2004 7:20:01 PM PST by AzJohn
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To: spunkets
They are criminals. By not wearing a seat belt you harm no one but yourself. Illegal aliens break law upon law and are a drain on our society.
156 posted on 01/23/2004 7:20:36 PM PST by raybbr
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To: spunkets
"The reason is, because the executive and Congress finds the present situation unworkable and Congress hasn't and will not authorize the funds for a police state crackdown."

Based solely on your point, then the IRS should be dissolved and the income tax repealed since the present situation is unworkable and close to 40 million people do not file. You can not apply the law selectively. Enforce them all or repeal them all.
157 posted on 01/23/2004 7:20:45 PM PST by Beck_isright ("Those who stand for nothing fall for anything."-Alexander Hamilton)
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To: AzJohn
This is a 100% political move. W will never feel the impact. The average schmuck like you and I will be paying the bill long after W passes into history.
158 posted on 01/23/2004 7:22:24 PM PST by Beck_isright ("Those who stand for nothing fall for anything."-Alexander Hamilton)
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To: skeeter
"the health of our republic"

Depends on Freedom and Freedom can only be promoted and protected by doing the right thing. Bush has proposed an outline for doing just that and correcting the deficiencies. Folks will note it. It's up to Congress and it's advisors, that includes citizens, to create the plan and implement it.

159 posted on 01/23/2004 7:25:13 PM PST by spunkets
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To: quidnunc
OK....nuff said ...I'm off to next issue !

Thanks !.......Stay Safe !

160 posted on 01/23/2004 7:26:10 PM PST by Squantos (Salmon...the other pink meat !)
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