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Republicans warn Bush on immigration policy
Washington Times ^ | 1/28/04 | Valerie Richardson

Posted on 01/27/2004 10:30:57 PM PST by kattracks

Edited on 07/12/2004 4:12:57 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

DENVER - Twenty-three congressmen warned President Bush in a letter yesterday that he risks an election-year backlash from Republican voters if he continues to press his guest-worker proposal.

The Republican lawmakers said their congressional offices have received a flood of angry letters, e-mails and phone calls from Republican constituents vowing that they will refuse to vote for the president if his program is approved.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; backlash; gwb2004; illegals; immigrationplan; invasion; nannystate; virgilgoode; welfarestate
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To: Don Joe
Actually, it's Rove that seems to be advocating it

You should really get over your "Karl Rove is the devil incarnate" syndrome. You sound like a lefty demo.

161 posted on 01/28/2004 1:26:55 AM PST by Dane
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To: Don Joe
Too bad. Stubbornly sticking with a bad decision, just to spite those who elected him is not what this country needs in its president.

Then fire him. Or try to.

162 posted on 01/28/2004 1:27:56 AM PST by Texasforever
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To: calawah98
And it appears your principals are for destroying our borders, and turning the United States into a third world country

Really, then why is standard of living never been higher.

Do you enjoy living in such a state of constant fear.

163 posted on 01/28/2004 1:28:31 AM PST by Dane
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To: Dane
They see a Rove behind every Bush and a Mexican under every bed. They are TERRIFIED.
164 posted on 01/28/2004 1:29:37 AM PST by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever; Don Joe
Then fire him. Or try to

And let's see who Don's alternative is. Right now it seems to be Kerry.

165 posted on 01/28/2004 1:30:02 AM PST by Dane
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To: calawah98
You have so soon forgotten, if that 20% had not voted for him before, he would still be in Crawford Texas, and Gore would have been president

He may have soon forgotten it, but I've got a feeling he'll soon be remembering it.

This is evidently the year of "piss on us now, cry in your beer later."

I wonder what Rove will do for an encore after he implodes this campaign? The talkshow circuit with his moral twin, Carvile, perhaps?

166 posted on 01/28/2004 1:31:14 AM PST by Don Joe ("Bush owes the 'base' nothing." --Texasforever, 01/28/2004)
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To: Dane
You should really get over your "Karl Rove is the devil incarnate" syndrome. You sound like a lefty demo.

You really should get over your shoving-words-into-my-mouth syndrome. You sound like a raving nutter.

167 posted on 01/28/2004 1:32:21 AM PST by Don Joe ("Bush owes the 'base' nothing." --Texasforever, 01/28/2004)
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To: Texasforever
They see a Rove behind every Bush and a Mexican under every bed. They are TERRIFIED

Yep it seems they hate Rove more than Kerry. They show where their loyalties lie and that is with the demos.

168 posted on 01/28/2004 1:32:57 AM PST by Dane
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To: Texasforever
Then fire him. Or try to.

Now how on earth could I do that?

Don't be silly.

I've simply decided that I'm not going to waste my vote this year.

I'm gonna keep it.

169 posted on 01/28/2004 1:33:48 AM PST by Don Joe ("Bush owes the 'base' nothing." --Texasforever, 01/28/2004)
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To: Don Joe
You really should get over your shoving-words-into-my-mouth syndrome. You sound like a raving nutter

LOL! The "Rove is the devil incarnate" rhetoric is spewing out of your mouth with no coercion at all.

170 posted on 01/28/2004 1:34:37 AM PST by Dane
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To: Texasforever
How do we "fix" healthcare?

I appreciate your asking me that. I actually worked for a health care insurance company for a while, and frankly, I am appalled at the current system...I think the Dems tried to purposely ruin it with the HMO thing.

Remember the "MSA"? It was a great idea, but was limited to the self-employed...at least for the last several years. I was relatively young when it was first proposed, and I am sure it was discussed at the time...but what if employers could participate?

They are already paying, say $750 per month for a family policy for their employees (the employees pay varying amounts of this). Maybe they could offer a "catastrophic" policy with a $10,000 of $15,000 deductible for $250, per month, and then be enticed, through tax breaks, to put the other monthly monies into a tax-free medical account for the employee's family to use for day-to-day expenses. Once the employee's "account" reached the deductible amount, the employer's monthly contribution could be reduced drastically...say to $100/month (of which the employee would pay their "percentage").

The tax-free account could be allowed to grow (to discourage frivolous use), and could be taken with the employee from job to job; and might eventually be available as taxable income for retirement.

The employer would ultimately save money to the tune of several hundred dollars per month, per employee...and people would have an incentive not to run to the doctor for every ailment.

It would also get rid of the iron hand of the insurance companies' dictates, by allowing people to choose where to spend their medical dollars. It would encourage them to shop for the best care at the best price.

There might have to be some type of stop-gap coverage for the deductible until the account was built to that point...but that would be up to the employee to pay..or not. And, HMO's (and that type of full coverage) would have to be done away with entirely.

I'm tired, and this is a rambling reply, I know...just some of my thoughts. This would help to alleviate the concerns of some of the small business people, and those folks who are paying entirely too much for insurance. This issue first became of interest to me when I was an exec at a manufacturing company. We had 250 employees, and the insurance bill that came in January of 2001 (for the entire year) was 1.2 million...DOLLARS. This is killing our businesses. As far as the uninsured; we already have programs in place for most of them...but we should go back to refusing some services.

171 posted on 01/28/2004 1:35:59 AM PST by garandgal (Capitalism works wonderfully amongst a moral people)
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To: Dane
Here is what will happen. Bush wins with 51 to 55% popular and 320+ electoral vote without the "base". The next day the "base" will be claiming it "held its nose" and voted for him but he had better shape up or it will teach the GOP a "lesson" in 2008.
172 posted on 01/28/2004 1:36:02 AM PST by Texasforever
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To: Dane
There you go again!

Here's a thought: try swapping out half the caffeine for prozac, and see if that helps. If not, I'd suggest therapy.

173 posted on 01/28/2004 1:36:51 AM PST by Don Joe ("Bush owes the 'base' nothing." --Texasforever, 01/28/2004)
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To: Don Joe
I've simply decided that I'm not going to waste my vote this year.

I'm gonna keep it.

And keep it for the time when you find the candidate who will give you marshmallow pies and marmalade skies, I surmise.

Do me a favor, when you reach your destination called "perfect political world" send me a postcard. I beleive that it will be a very long time before the mailman delivers it.

174 posted on 01/28/2004 1:38:16 AM PST by Dane
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To: rmlew; Clemenza; PARodrig; nutmeg; firebrand
ping
175 posted on 01/28/2004 1:38:53 AM PST by Cacique
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To: Don Joe
I've simply decided that I'm not going to waste my vote this year.

Good for you. Now, how many more times are you going to declare your intentions?

176 posted on 01/28/2004 1:39:08 AM PST by Texasforever
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To: Don Joe
Here's a thought: try swapping out half the caffeine for prozac, and see if that helps. If not, I'd suggest therapy.

Uh Don, I am not the one posting the replies basically stating that "Rove is the devil incarnate", you are.

177 posted on 01/28/2004 1:39:56 AM PST by Dane
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To: Don Joe
James Carvil
That would be the last straw, if ever some one looked like they just stepped out of a coffin, that is the man. lol

I am out of here for now, just have to wait an see what happens I guess.
178 posted on 01/28/2004 1:42:02 AM PST by calawah98
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To: Texasforever
Here is what will happen. Bush wins with 51 to 55% popular and 320+ electoral vote without the "base". The next day the "base" will be claiming it "held its nose" and voted for him but he had better shape up or it will teach the GOP a "lesson" in 2008.

Exactly, most of these "self-proclaimed blue blood conservative" Buchananites/Constitution party people were here in 2000 spewing the same stuff.

179 posted on 01/28/2004 1:42:59 AM PST by Dane
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To: gatorbait
Anyway,looks like the legislators are getting off their hams and facing the problem.. So we'll see.. :-)

Yeah, we'll see. But what will we see?

Remember, Rove hasn't begun the arm-twisting yet, like he did with CFR. The things that happened to get that travesty passed are just now starting to surface.

Realistically, I think we need to face up to the likelihood that this thing was a done deal before they laid word one of it on us, and NWIH are they gonna have it NOT go through.

180 posted on 01/28/2004 1:43:58 AM PST by Don Joe ("Bush owes the 'base' nothing." --Texasforever, 01/28/2004)
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