Rough Ride - Protect Our Border's - Fight Illegal Immigration {{{Ongoing Thread}}}

Southern Poverty Law Center ^ | 1-29-04 | Bob Moser

[JustPiper]

Being I do not want this to be assumed as a vanity thread I am posting a legitimate article that was recently brought to my attention.

This article has upset me greatly. When the Freedom Bus Ride was ongoing, we had an ongoing thread posted by EternalWarming. On this thread I posted an after Freep report my daughter and I attended in Chicago. On this thread someone also posted an inflammatory picture which was removed but we tastelessly laughed at it.

We had someone, that obviously was a DU and threatened us but singled myself out, with reporting it to Southern Poverty Law Center that I in fact was a hate monger. As many poster's this person was a hit/miss. I attended this Freep back in June. And this article has a few paragraphs about me, one of which is exactly what I posted. The second, is apparently doctored and quite contrary to my post. I cleared this in order to be able to post it.

Credit to thecabal for the above logo

Today begins an ongoing thread to add your links, important news,legislative happenings etc. all regarding the protection of our borders. There are now so many articles and news stories that it is good to have one place to view it all.

I will start off this thread with saying I believe we all need to contact our state representatives and those is our party who need to know this is not a one-horse issue that will go away.I have stated that all it takes is one issue to start a domino effect and the entire administration could fall apart. None of us wants that to happen. We also need to contact the media and make sure the democratic spin on this is not for political advantage. This issue is closely correlated with the War On Terror for terrorist's are using our open border's against us the same way they used commercial flights to attack us on 911.

Being I do not want this to be assumed as a vanity thread I am posting a legitimate article that was recently brought to my attention.

Here is the story:

Anti-immigration activists confront a pro-migrant freedom ride — joined by some of America's leading neo-Nazi groups

Exerpted:

On the sparkling afternoon of Oct. 3, 18 buses carrying more than 900 Immigrant Workers Freedom Riders rolled into New Jersey's Liberty State Park. The riders, many of them illegal immigrant workers from Central America, had boarded the buses nearly two weeks before in 10 different U.S. cities.

Inspired by the 1961 Freedom Rides for black civil rights, they'd made more than 100 stops in small towns and big cities to promote their reform agenda: greater workplace protections, reunification of immigrant families, and a "road to citizenship" for America's estimated 8 to 10 million undocumented workers.

Some of the protests had been lonely, with one or two anti-immigration activists holding signs with slogans like "Being Illegal Is Not a Civil Right." But at upwards of a dozen Freedom Ride stops, the anti-immigration activists had been joined by members of the nation's largest white-supremacist hate groups — all of whom had come together for today's demonstration.

Their arguments often sounded similar. Like Turner and many hate-group leaders, the powerful Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) and Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) called for federal officials to arrest the undocumented Freedom Riders.

"Any event that advertises the participation of illegal aliens ought to be raided, and the illegal aliens deported," Mark Krikorian of CIS told the Miami Herald.

At a Chicago rally, where members of the white-supremacist Council of Conservative Citizens and the neo-Nazi White Revolution appeared along with members of mainstream anti-immigration groups, protesters held signs saying, "No more free rides. No more welfare. No more stolen jobs."

This is where I need to interject ...The first highlighted paragraph 'is' in fact what I posted in my after Freep report

For many of the anti-immigration protesters, rallying side-by-side with neo-Nazis and Klansmen was too close for comfort. "Turns out we were smack in the middle of a damn white supremacist group!" an anti-immigration activist calling erself "JustPiper" complained on an Internet chat site after the Chicago counter-demonstration.

This is obviosuly what the DU troll rewrote from the rest of my report for me and sent it to SPLC

But what really got under JustPiper's skin seemed to be the Freedom Riders, not the neo-Nazis from White Revolution. "[T]hese banditos kept screaming obscenities and threats at us," she claimed. "Lemme tellya, they were just coming with signs like cockroaches!"

I've posted thousands of replies and articles here and never have I said something so idiotic or silly like this. I have made a derogatory remark about illegals offhanded saying they were reproducing like some creature. And yes I posted they were yelling threats and obsecenities at my daughter and I. But we stayed silent holding our poster's in front of us. Also we left the group when a federal agent (This was in front of the Federal Building)told us we were standing by white supremacist's which means now both side's were scaring us and we went to stand with some police officer's who knew our dual plight. So people firsthand I am feeling the sting and I will not back down from the illegal immigrant issue!

Now onto links:

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Contact your local media and the following of your choice:

ABC NEWS
BOSTON GLOBE
CBS
CHICAGO SUN-TIMES
FOX NEWS
NY TIMES
USA TODAY
WASHINGTON TIMES
WORLD NET DAILY

LOU DOBBS -EXPORTING AMERICA

Scarborough Country

MICHELLE MALKIN

PAT BUCHANAN

[thecabal]

COMING TO AMERICA
'Illegal immigrant'
an offensive slur?
Latinos resent term, compare it to use of N-word for blacks

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Posted: January 29, 2004
5:00 p.m. Eastern

© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com

Though it might be technically accurate, calling someone who entered the U.S. in an unlawful manner "illegal" has become politically incorrect.

"I can't speak for other immigrant groups," activist Jerry Gonzalez told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, "but on behalf of the Latino community, many people I speak to on a day-to-day basis think it serves to dehumanize the person, makes them less than human. Similar to the way the n-word was used to dehumanize African-Americans."

Gonzales, who oversees the Georgia Association of Latino Elected Officials, says many Latinos are offended by the labels.

"It's easy to dismiss someone when you use a disparaging term such as 'illegal immigrant' or 'illegal alien,'" said Gonzalez.

The Atlanta daily reports the activist plans to lobby state lawmakers to use the term "undocumented workers" when talking about Mexicans and other foreigners in the U.S. illegally.

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[Cindy]

TUCSON CITIZEN.com - Breaking News: "3 ILLEGALS CARJACK SUV; BORDER PATROL QUICKLY CAPTURES THEM" by David L. Teibel (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "A woman and her 14-year-old daughter were pulled from their SUV and beaten outside their rural Cochise County home Thursday morning in a carjacking by three men illegally in the United States, authorities said.") (January 29, 2004) (Read More...)

[JustPiper]

Bump!

[JustPiper]

Thanks Cindy -g-

[JustPiper]

It's Not Working!(Limbaugh slams Bush on Spending ...)
The Rush Limbaugh Show ^ | January 29, 2004 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 01/29/2004 9:25:22 PM CST by Amerigomag

On Thursday, I took two calls on the Bush proposal to increase the National Endowment for the Arts' budget. (See: Who Needs the NEA?) As part of his continuing strategy to peel off Democrat voters by growing government, Bush wants to force all of us to give the NEA $15 to $20 million in 2004. Where in the Constitution does it say the federal government will fund art? If we like it, we can fund it on our own.

Rush I heard your show while in the car and we loved the end, the rest of the shows just are not as interesting -g-

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1067987/posts?page=71#71

[JustPiper]

Bump for the Ping for the thread !

A question about Hizballah and Mexico
Terence Jeffrey (archive)

January 28, 2004 | Print | Send

Politicians serious about preventing another Sept. 11 should listen to the leader of Hizballah, and then read an indictment unsealed this month in Detroit.

"Let the entire world hear me," said Sheik Hassan Nasrallah on Sept. 27, 2002. "Our hostility to the Great Satan is absolute."

2,280 posted on 01/30/2004 1:04:00 AM CST by thecabal

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/terencejeffrey/tj20040128.shtml

[JustPiper]

GOP weighs value of Bush immigration plan
Washington Times ^ | 1/30/04 | Ralph Z. Hallow

Posted on 01/29/2004 11:59:02 PM CST by kattracks

Republican leaders see little chance of a significant grass-roots revolt over President Bush's immigration policy, but some wonder whether his proposal has any short-term benefits for him politically.

"I know why Bush raised [the guest-worker issue] in his State of the Union speech — it was the right thing to do, even though there is almost zero chance Congress will pass it in this election year," said David Norcross, chairman of the Republican National Convention in New York.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1068081/posts?page=9

[JustPiper]

Presidential Candidate Michael Peroutka's Statement about Immigration Issues | Michael Peroutka Website ^ | January 10, 2004 | Michael Peroutka

Posted on 01/29/2004 9:28:14 PM CST by ETERNAL WARMING

January 10, 2004
Dear Friends,
The Republican Party Platform that George Bush ran on called for a total overhaul of our immigration system and criticized the Clinton Administration for lax enforcement of our immigration laws. But, President Bush's recently announced so-called immigration reform does nothing to secure our borders. In fact, his suggested plan makes things worse --- a lot worse and a lot more dangerous.

Posted on 01/29/2004 9:28:14 PM CST by ETERNAL WARMING

Michael's Homepage

[Zipporah]

Our only hope is to walk away from the Republican Party.. and I know there will be those who say the worse EVIL in the world will happen A DEMOCRAT WILL BE ELECTED!! SO WHAT?? A Democrat would be worse?? I think NOT! These pseudo conservatives have done more damage to this country than any Democrat could possibly do. I say LEAVE the STINKING SHIP er SINKING ship.. NO I had it right the first time!!

LEAVE THE STINKING SHIP!!

[JustPiper]

Mexico buys missile launchers from Israel
PHXNews ^
Posted on 01/29/2004 8:42:13 PM CST by Happy2BMe

LA VOZ DE AZTLAN NEWS BULLETIN

Los Angeles, Alta California

January 27, 2004

Mexico buys missile launchers from Israel

The Mexican Navy announced yesterday that it has bought from Israel two fully operational Aliya class speed boats capable of launching 5 Gabriel missile each. Naval Captain Arturo Flores Gil told the Mexico City "La Jornada" newspaper that Mexico had paid Israel 60 million dollars for the two naval missile launchers and 10 missiles. Each missile is capable of being outfitted with nuclear warheads.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1067960/posts?page=1

[JustPiper]

Hey what happened to our logo?

XXI BORDER GOVERNORS CONFERENCE, UNITED STATES-MEXICO
AUGUST 7-8, 2003
CHIHUAHUA, CHIHUAHUA

JOINT DECLARATION

PREAMBLE

THE GOVERNORS OF THE STATES OF ARIZONA, CALIFORNIA, NEW MEXICO AND TEXAS OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND THE GOVERNORS OF THE STATES OF BAJA CALIFORNIA, CHIHUAHUA, COAHUILA, NUEVO LEON, SONORA AND TAMAULIPAS OF THE
UNITED MEXICAN STATES, MEETING IN THE CITY OF CHIHUAHUA, CHIHUAHUA, ON AUGUST 7 - 8, 2003

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1067856/posts?page=13

[Paul C. Jesup]

Thanks for the link, this like a nightmare, it just gets worse and worse. Both parties are in a pissing contest too see which party can bankrupt this country first, meanwhile Mexico is gear up for a full scale war with the U.S. if their passive style invasion of the U.S. does not work out.

And most out our military is on the other side of the planet.

[JustPiper]

Bush to Frame Migrant Policy (Congressman Gallegly: Any Amnesty Is "DOA" In Congress)
LA Times ^ | January 6, 2004 | Ricardo Alonso-Zaldivar

Posted on 01/06/2004 4:29:49 PM CST by Pubbie

President Bush is preparing to outline significant changes in immigration law this week, including an expanded guest worker program and the opportunity — with restrictions — for millions of undocumented workers to get green cards, congressional and business sources said Monday.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1052796/posts?page=37#37

[JustPiper]

A Guide chockful of wonderful links:

A FReeper's Guide To Immigration Reform
Posted on 01/12/2004 11:37:51 AM CST by Happy2BMe

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1056347/posts?page=188#188

[JustPiper]

Just think , all the info posted here hasn't even scratched the surface yet

[JustPiper]

Democrats offer plan on aliens
The Washington Times ^ | 1/29/04 | Amy Fagan

Posted on 01/29/2004 1:19:51 PM CST by Cyropaedia
Democrats offer plan on aliens By Amy Fagan THE WASHINGTON TIMES Published January 29, 2004

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1067710/posts?page=13#13

[JustPiper]

Mexico's immigration problem -- The kamikazes of poverty
The Economist ^ | January 29th, 2004

Posted on 01/29/2004 1:18:08 PM CST by Willie Green
For education and discussion only. Not for commercial use.

TAPACHULA, MEXICO -- Mexico's southern border with Guatemala is supposed to be a new frontier in the war against terror. But it is economic migration that causes the problems

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1067707/posts?page=4#4

[NormsRevenge]

Just think , all the info posted here hasn't even scratched the surface yet.

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Vey true. That should give the all of our FR researchers much joy&glee. :-]

I need to go thru these threads and update my homepage.

I have some links to some immigration&such sites but there are a lot more out there, working as hard as they can to .....

Save Our Country FRom FoReign&Domestic Invaders.

[Oorang]

BUMP

[thecabal]

Hey what happened to our logo?

Sorry, I host it at home, and my cable was taken out for 12 hours this morning by high winds. I use a cable modem for my Internet connection so...kablooey. That doesn't happen that often so (knock on wood) it should be OK now.