Bush’s War Stories Simply Don’t Fly

NY Observer ^ | January 31, 2004 | Joe Conason

[kabar]

And those three "wounds" put him out of action for a grand total of TWO days.

Exactly. Obviously, Kerry knew the rules and three wounds were his ticket out. I will say the politically incorrect by questioning whether any of these "wounds" were self-inflicted. I would also like to see the citations for his Silver Star and Bronze Star and learn who initiated the paperwork. Kerry is a shameless self-promoter who, in my opinion, saw Vietnam as a way of getting his ticket punched to further his political ambitions. When he returned from Vietnam, he expressed his shame about his military service because it was politically expedient. Now he holds his service up as a badge of honor taking every opportunity to remind everyone that he served. Kerry wants it both ways and always has.

[jpsb]

no problem, the USMC was one of the best things that ever happened to me. The experience turned my life around, I was a punk kid going nowhere. They helped me to become a man.

Bush has nothing to be ashamed of. He could have been called to duty in Vietnam at any time. As far as I am concerned he did his duty. And as others have pointed out his duty, fighter jets, wasn't all that easy or safe.

[M Kehoe]

Just one question for Joe and Michael Moore the Miserable failure: Do they have a DD Form 214?

5.56mm

[jpsb]

I'd like to be part of that debate, but the debate should start with Korea. With Truman and MacAuthor, and the concept of limited war, fighting not to win but to maintain the status quo. I can forgive Trumen, he didn't know any better but LBJ had the Korean lesson to draw upon, MacAuthor on his death bed begged LBJ not fight in Vietnam. the General knew exactly what was going to happen.

[dvwjr]

"Is there a credible, impartial, source for the entire story on the President's service record? We have all read these stories many times but, to date, I haven't seen anything satisfactory that clears up a troublesome record."

You might wish to take a look at this complete thread, a Free Republic Thread on Bush(43) Service Record which will answer not only the charges that he got into the Texas Air National Guard by pulling strings with an extremely low test score, and that he was "AWOL" from duty. The information on the thread even has photocopies of the Bush(43) service records, dates, times etc so that you can form your OWN opinion by reading the liberal 'charges' and dates, and then matching them up with his government service record. Why not trust you OWN eyes rather than having to find a 'story' which might support Bush(43)? Best of luck, dvwjr

[AHerald]

From an old O-club song: "If you fly a 102, don't go up unless it's blue - if it feels one drop of rain, you'll have pieces - not a plane"

Too funny. Cool bit of trivia. Thanks.

[moonman]

jpsb (Nominated 1994 "Worst writer on the net")

How about 'worst functional brain on the net)

LOL just kiddin

[1rudeboy]

But what about illegal immigration?

[_Jim]

How about that - Joe Conason and Alex Jones have something in common -

- they're both hung-up about GWB's military service record!

[AHerald]

From the Annenberg Political Fact Check report:

Bush A Military “Deserter?” Calm Down, Michael
Clark backer Michael Moore calls President Bush a “deserter” for missing Air National Guard drills 31 years ago. Puh-lease!

[steve50]

But what about illegal immigration?

I'm against it, how about you?

[_Jim]

Apparently, the 'left' considers looney sources like Alex Jones (of www.infowars.com fame) to be a 'credible' - they are beginning to cite him as 'legitimate' source of information!

From: www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=9684

#27   
Ms. Andi  1/23/2004 10:21AM PST 


#21 Necklace of shoes

Unbelievable isn't it. I thought I was on a Kucinich thread. 

The fact they sited Alex Jones/infowars.com (Austin's
favorite loon) as a legitimate source had me in stiches. 

...


#27, #33

Alex Jones is still at it? I thought he'd be in an asylum 
by now. 

For those of you not familiar, Mr. Jones had/has a cable
 access show wherein he would routinely play "Star Wars"
 films behind him on the blue screen while he ranted on and
 on about the "evil empire" at home. This was during
 Clinton's reign and I can't imagine it's gotten any 
 better.

 Austin was too damn hot, the UT a bureaucratic nightmare,
 the vaunted "music scene" just empty warehouses full of
 garage bands, the vaunted "coffee house" scene just a bunch
 of old gas stations selling cheap java and the townsfolk a
 curious mixture of yuppie scum and hippie freakdom when I
 lived there. [OT--Do the Zendiks nutflakes still have a tv
 show, too? Picture Mr. and Mrs. Charles Manson and the Rev.
 Jim Jones orchestra with a half-hour slot, folks. 
 Charming.] It may have a few nice restaurants and a mild 
 winter, but otherwise to hell with it. Charles Whitman had
 a vision. At least the drugs were cheap but I guess that's
 because of the short trip to Mexico. Avoid. 

[jpsb]

Not funny! Over the years I have been nominated for numerous "net" awards and discovered many new and interesting things about my "family history".

[_Jim]

One of the idiots that runs this web site were going on and on about GWB's service record a couple of days ago - this woman named Joyce (Joyce Riley?) who can talk 90 miles an hour was literally going on and on and on a couple of days ago an Alex Jones's shortwave broadcast ...

Reality, it seems, is of no concern to these people when one has an agenda to promote against the New World Order and other suitable bogey men that appear to be the 'root' of all evil.

     www.thepowerhour.com/news_frame.htm

In particular, they have a link to a piece titled:

    The Military Records of George Walker Bush

[Zipporah]

My brother-in-law volunteered for Nam and he died there. Hats off to you and those who fought and those who died serving our country.

[backhoe]

Thanks for looking- that was what I had handy, somewhere around here ( FR ) should be that New York Times article debunking this slander, I just couldn't locate it quickly.

[WorkingClassFilth]

Thanks for the NRO article - it was excellent and very useful.

[WorkingClassFilth]

I tend to agree with your thinking. While I won't assume the nature of Kerry's wounds to be self-inflicted, given his known lying, his current deceits and his political nature, I won't rule out less than 'heroic' incidents either. It would be very interesting and educational to examine F'ing's service records and determine the actual substance of his tales.

[WorkingClassFilth]

Excellent! Thanks - as always, FReepers are the best source of credible information!

[hobson]

Excellent! I think you should create a thread for that info so it can be found in searches. Good job.