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Conservative Uprising Over Immigration
NewsMax ^ | 2/5/04 | Howard Kaloogian

Posted on 02/05/2004 2:58:10 PM PST by TatooChick

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To: chris1
Good analogy!

But I have a bit of hope and optimism... because the establishment in the Republican/Conservative universe does catch on eventually.

I remember working for Howard in the early days of the recall. Outside of McClintock, Shawn Steel, Melanie Morgan, Ted Costa, Eric Hogue, Roger Hedgecock and Lew Uhler it was T O U G H getting people motivated.

Gradually, little by little people started coming on board.

By the time that Issa came in with $1.7 million things were superheated and EVERYONE tried to pretend they were there all along.

I think if Howard can win and if Maddox and Oller can win (two local races where immigration has emerged) then I think GOP leaders will try to co-opt the message and say "yeah, we Californians live this experience uniquely and understand that rewarding people for breaking the law is wrong. Amnesty is wrong. Drivers licenses are wrong."

They'll pretend they were with us all along!

21 posted on 02/05/2004 3:49:04 PM PST by Impeach98
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To: evilsmoker
Oh, don't mind some of the simplistic approaches some on this forum take.

Anyone who disagrees with anything whether President Bush is positing something as a ruse to trap the dems or snooker them out of their issues or for real is a Bush hater, don'tcha know.



22 posted on 02/05/2004 3:49:49 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi Mac ...... /~normsrevenge - FoR California Propositions/Initiatives info...)
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To: evilsmoker
Well said. In fact Kaloogian has bent over backwards to praise the president for where he DOES agree with him.

Time Magazine reported that the President's current proposal came from Vincente Fox who first raised the plan with Bush when he was Governor of Texas.

Bush would be much better served by listening to Kaloogian - as a Republican Senator from California, than Vincente Fox.

23 posted on 02/05/2004 3:50:36 PM PST by Impeach98
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To: VU4G10
Kaloogian for President!

Tancredo/Kaloogian '08

Has a nice ring, don't you think?

24 posted on 02/05/2004 3:51:03 PM PST by TatooChick (Praise the Lord...and pass the ammunition)
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To: Peace will be here soon
Peace,

Thanks for the Heads up!

25 posted on 02/05/2004 3:52:28 PM PST by TatooChick (Praise the Lord...and pass the ammunition)
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To: TatooChick
Tancredo/Kaloogian '08

Has a nice ring, don't you think?


But But .. I thought it was gonna be

Tancredo/McClintock in 2008 :-\

Oh , that's right. Tom will be CA Gov then and be cleaning up the mess in this state and enacting true reform after we get taken to the cleaners by the demRats for 3 more years.

There. That should get the crowd going. ;-}
26 posted on 02/05/2004 4:58:44 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi Mac ...... /~normsrevenge - FoR California Propositions/Initiatives info...)
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To: NormsRevenge
I like it!
27 posted on 02/05/2004 5:21:21 PM PST by Impeach98
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To: TatooChick
These people surely know or maybe not come to think of it that this vast uncounted mass of humanity historically migrated here to get what liberals always promise to the ignorant masses with no thought or regard as to how all these freebies have to be paid for. Unless the Congress is held by Conservatives and we can finally refuse the "FREE LUNCH" to non Contributors the battle will surely be lost forever to the liberal hordes banging on the Gates! The Senate and House must be retained and increased with Conservative Representatives. Nothing should be left to chance Impeach If necessary all who fall outside of the changes needed to reform our Government!
28 posted on 02/05/2004 5:39:04 PM PST by winker
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To: NormsRevenge
swiz... lol
29 posted on 02/05/2004 6:27:26 PM PST by calcowgirl (No on Propositions 55, 56, 57, 58)
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To: calcowgirl
stick :-\
30 posted on 02/05/2004 6:36:28 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi Mac ...... /~normsrevenge - FoR California Propositions/Initiatives info...)
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To: TatooChick
A good man. I'm impressed - and I think on this issue alone he could unseat our uberliberal Senator Barbara Boxer in November. GO HOWARD!!!!
31 posted on 02/05/2004 6:38:08 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: TatooChick
bump
32 posted on 02/05/2004 6:41:43 PM PST by Lady Eileen
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To: Peace will be here soon
And Oberweis brings up the subject of illegal immigration without being asked. Most politicians won't do this. This guy is for real!
33 posted on 02/05/2004 6:48:02 PM PST by Be active
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
Wanting our borders closed and laws enforced is a "far right" position?

Suddenly we're "fringers," "extremists" and "Bushbashers."

Nevermind that the LAWS of the land are on OUR side. Never mind that the politicians are ignoring us.

THIS AIN'T GOING AWAY! Republican leaders had better start paying attention or they'll be out of a job!

You go Howard!
34 posted on 02/05/2004 7:30:59 PM PST by ETERNAL WARMING (SHUT THE DOOR IN 2004!)
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To: TatooChick
Tancredo/Kaloogian '08

No. Tancredo has already compromised and come out with his own guest worker program. If he's willing to compromise already, how much more would he bend if elected. No way. I want someone who unapologetically stands with us on this issue. No more spineless, irrelevant puppets in office.
35 posted on 02/05/2004 7:36:00 PM PST by ETERNAL WARMING (SHUT THE DOOR IN 2004!)
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To: ETERNAL WARMING
bttt
36 posted on 02/05/2004 7:37:39 PM PST by lainde (Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades!!)
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To: chris1
bump in bold

The problem is that most GOP candidates are patsies and panzies.

Damn true.

37 posted on 02/05/2004 7:42:06 PM PST by jpsb (Nominated 1994 "Worst writer on the net")
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To: ETERNAL WARMING
THIS AIN'T GOING AWAY!

That's for sure. Things are only now beginning to heat up nationwide.

38 posted on 02/05/2004 7:44:46 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: jpsb
Thank you, it was the only thing I could think of.
39 posted on 02/05/2004 7:50:09 PM PST by chris1
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To: chris1
it worked, good job.
40 posted on 02/05/2004 8:19:35 PM PST by jpsb (Nominated 1994 "Worst writer on the net")
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