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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 8 Feb 2004 (Pres Bush on MTP)
Various big media television networks ^ | 8 Feb 2004 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 02/08/2004 4:43:47 AM PST by Alas Babylon!

Edited on 02/08/2004 12:09:59 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: ilovew
Ah, nice to be where you are in life believing that MOST women are intellectually honest and vote with common sense and logic rather than feelings.

BTW, did you ever hear of the Million Moms March. And those dingbats who put signs in the front windows saying.....GUN FREE HOME.....

1,661 posted on 02/09/2004 10:55:37 AM PST by OldFriend (Always understand, even if you remain among the few)
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To: Stu Cohen
I shudder to think that 5 years from now we will be watching the "Taco Bell State of the Union Address".

I do as well.

You make some good points and it's nice rather than scary to know we have something in common. I disagree with you, however, on your belief that President Bush should have asked for a "commercial-free" program. Why? Because this interview was not a SOTU speech, it was not a modern-day fireside chat, nor was it an important message from the nation's president to the people. Tim Russert has done interviews with presidential candidates and this interview was one of them. Yes, he is the POTUS, but in the context of the interview yesterday, he was a candidate just like all the others.

Can you imagine the outcry if he had received "special treatment" by NBC in this case? I believe that would have caused far greater damage to President Bush's campaign for re-election than what some consider to be a "poor showing" in the Russert interview.

My personal opinion is that President Bush did an admirable job of answering the questions put forth by Tim Russert. I will admit to a rose-colored bias on my part, but I don't believe it's humanly possible to eliminate all partialities since our entire lives are made up of choices that give us our viewpoints.

Your turn. :o)

1,662 posted on 02/09/2004 11:10:58 AM PST by arasina (So there.)
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To: arasina
Your turn. :o)

Well, I hate to disappoint you ... but I agree with most of your comments :-)

I thought the purpose of the interview was to be more of an explanation to the American people for certain past decisions (fireside-chat'esqe), but in the context of it being a candidate interview, I suppose it would have been percieved as unfair to grant an full hour to his positions.

I guess i'm just getting old and cranky and after listening to the POTUS wistfully express regret over the casualties we have experienced in Iraq - the subsequent pitch for a cure for erectile dysfuntion, and Lassie perfoming kung-fu on a mountain lion seemed a little, well, odd.

On second thought, maybe it's just the current crop of commercials that I don't like :-)

1,663 posted on 02/09/2004 11:33:07 AM PST by Stu Cohen
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To: OldFriend
No it's women who vote with something other than their intellect.

Wait a minute. Are you implying that women vote with their libidos? How does that explain my vote for Ross Perot in 1992? Yes, it was a horribly stupid thing to do, but it sure wasn't his physical appearance that captured my vote.

Then again, it wasn't my intellect either...so what was it? Emotion, perhaps? Could be the same thing that causes women to respond to those "Chick Flicks" or read romance novels whereas men respond to basic visual stimuli like big bazongas or the curve of a waistline.

If a very physically attractive woman was running for public office against a much smarter but homely one, which one would receive more votes from men?

1,664 posted on 02/09/2004 11:48:15 AM PST by arasina (So there.)
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To: Stu Cohen

Zat better? (It is for me. "Those were the days" and all that.)

1,665 posted on 02/09/2004 12:04:05 PM PST by arasina (So there.)
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To: arasina
LOL!
1,666 posted on 02/09/2004 12:41:52 PM PST by Stu Cohen
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To: OldFriend; ilovew
***Ah, nice to be where you are in life believing that MOST women are intellectually honest and vote with common sense and logic rather than feelings.***

Well, here's a woman who is NOT in ilovew's age group, and I think you do her and all women a great disservice.
1,667 posted on 02/09/2004 1:59:57 PM PST by kitkat
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To: ilovew; OldFriend
Golly, they caught us. We have no idea what GWB stands for, his policy, his integrity, or morality.

We just love his winning smile & his VERY HOT body!!!

/sarcasm
1,668 posted on 02/09/2004 2:42:00 PM PST by DollyCali (2004: Opportunity for love, growth, giving, doing..... It is our choice.)
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To: kitkat; OldFriend; ilovew
Don't take it personally, ilovew; it's obvious that old friend would only hire/promote attractive women....it's called "projection."
1,669 posted on 02/09/2004 2:47:55 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: OldFriend
BTW, did you ever hear of the Million Moms March. And those dingbats who put signs in the front windows saying.....GUN FREE HOME.....

BTW, have you ever heard of Michael Moore and Bowling for Columbine? Based on your logic, I'd equate all men with having Michael Moore's physical appearance and their positions on gun control to be the same as his, too.

Also BTW, no, I have never heard of anyone hanging signs in their windows that announce it's a "gun-free home." Friends of yours?

Aren't generalizations fun? ;)
1,670 posted on 02/09/2004 3:00:55 PM PST by Fawnn (Canteen wOOhOO Consultant and CookingWithPam.com person)
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To: Fawnn
The best generalization of all is when someone says that since they didn't hear or see something then it doesn't exist.
1,671 posted on 02/09/2004 4:40:06 PM PST by OldFriend (Always understand, even if you remain among the few)
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To: Stu Cohen
You mean like learning how to pronounce "Nuclear" correctly? ;-)

Bush's pronunciation bugs the heck out of the other members of my family, who were born in the NY area.

I'm a little more tolerant of variations in speech. Maybe that's because I was "born and raised" in another section of the country.

Webster's seems to have accepted the pronunciation Bush uses, too. I guess some might consider it substandard.

Though disapproved of by many, pronunciations ending in \-ky&-l&r\ have been found in widespread use among educated speakers including scientists, lawyers, professors, congressmen, U.S. cabinet members, and at least one U.S. president and one vice president. While most common in the U.S., these pronunciations have also been heard from British and Canadian speakers.

1,672 posted on 02/09/2004 5:09:51 PM PST by syriacus (Why are re-enactments like Plimouth Plantation OK, but Gibson's Passion is not OK?)
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To: Stu Cohen
I think he should have demanded a "no-commercial" clause

I can just imagine the uproar that would have been raised on the Left if Bush "demanded" a commercial-free show. Some Leftists would have hinted that Bush was trying to censor the media, just like a neo-Hitler.

IMHO, Bush is smart to keep his eye on the big picture, rather than waste energy on far less important things.

1,673 posted on 02/09/2004 5:24:47 PM PST by syriacus (Why are re-enactments like Plimouth Plantation OK, but Gibson's Passion is not OK?)
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To: onyx
I'd be more than happy to be paid to spout my opinion! From what I see of the ones on TV like Margaret Carlson, Al Hunt, Eleanor Clift, et al, I'd be happy to do it for FAR less than they are probably getting paid.

I mean, I can be at least as stupid as them if I try hard enough! ;-)
1,674 posted on 02/10/2004 12:21:45 AM PST by Fledermaus (Democrats are just not capable of defending our nation's security. It's that simple!)
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To: Fledermaus
Fled, you're a universe better than any of the folks you named combined. I think your review is superior to any I've read here.
1,675 posted on 02/10/2004 12:26:32 AM PST by onyx (Your secrets are safe with me and all my friends.)
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To: onyx
Yeah, but I wouldn't be allowed to b*tch-slap Mara Liasson...what a shame!
1,676 posted on 02/10/2004 12:29:04 AM PST by Fledermaus (Democrats are just not capable of defending our nation's security. It's that simple!)
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To: Fledermaus
I'd pay good money to see that! She needs it. IMO, she BEGS for it.

Of course, I can't accurately describe what all I'd do to Elamanure Clift were I given the opportunity, without Jim lifting the ban on swearing.

1,677 posted on 02/10/2004 12:34:31 AM PST by onyx (Your secrets are safe with me and all my friends.)
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To: onyx
Clift will have a special place in hell...probably with Pat Buchanan! lol
1,678 posted on 02/10/2004 12:44:44 AM PST by Fledermaus (Democrats are just not capable of defending our nation's security. It's that simple!)
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To: Fledermaus
LOL! Yeah. Perfect. LOL.

Nite, Fledermaus. I'm turning in.
1,679 posted on 02/10/2004 12:47:42 AM PST by onyx (Your secrets are safe with me and all my friends.)
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To: onyx
Later!
1,680 posted on 02/10/2004 12:48:24 AM PST by Fledermaus (Democrats are just not capable of defending our nation's security. It's that simple!)
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