Rush has finally focused on the Kosovo problem

Andy from Beaverton | 02/17/04 | Andy from Beaverton

[Andy from Beaverton]

Finally!!! Rush has finally focused on the problems with and in Kosovo. For some of us, we have been screeming about this since April of 1999. Before you decide to jump all over me for any Rush comments, he has almost never spoke about the aftermath in Kosovo. Sure at times he has spoken poorly about the Kosovo operation, but I can't ever recall him saying that we had choosen the wrong side. The question is going to be if he actually goes more in depth or if this is going to be it???

[John O]

Turkey is a Muslim country

I don't think this is quite correct. Turkey is a secular country with a majority moslem population. Not a moslem country. Subtle but important differnce. As I understand it Turkey even has freedom of religion.

[John O]

RATS! tried to catch this before it posted and missed. TRurkey should be Turkey

[MontanaBeth]

"Your ignorance on this subject is complete"


My ignorance is complete, whereas the fact you use a UN site to back your claims for said mass graves. Sorry I just don't trust the UN, not saying they(mass graves) do not excist but I'm not going to believe anything they say as a basis of an argument or will I except the UN as the final word in any argument.

Now back at you, your ignorance, in the use of UN propaganda as proof of an argument is complete. Now why don't you go moralize to someone who will take your UN preaching as gospel. Hint: That's not me.

[philosofy123]

The Bosnian Moslem president published a book in which he advocates converting all the Christians to Islam, and using the Islamic Sharia law on all Bosnians. In return, we helped him stay in power so that he can continue to oppress his Christian citizens. Then he went and gave HONORAY CITIZENSHIP to Osama bin Laden (remember Bush comment? (you are either with us or with the terrorists)! Nothing happened! Neither Bush nor the right wing pundits suggested that we reverse the shameful Clinton war against the Christian Serbs. For the life of me, I cannot figure out how stupid the US and NATO were to fall into the Saudis/Iranian/Jihadis/Clinton sales pitch to support the Islamic jihadists in Europe against the orthodox Christians. The only thing that can shed some light on the subject is the Orthodox Christians don’t follow the Pope – hence f*** them. That is not very Christian of us?

[HELLRAISER II]

Perhaps you're right about Korea & Vietnam, but the last incident I remember, you know the Iraqi war II we had to buy them off and only then were they ready to help us minutely, partly because they thought they could pinch them off a little piece of Iraq for theirselves.

[norton]

4000 victims....

Since the UN hadn't gotten to that high a number last I heard, you ought to let them in on the story. Maybe DelPonte could find enough in it to actually make the lynching seem reasonable.

PS: did you find all 4000 in one place, take a long jaunt around the high spots, or just take clinton's word for it?

[Ronly Bonly Jones]

PS: did you find all 4000 in one place, take a long jaunt around the high spots, or just take clinton's word for it?>>

As a matter of fact I did. All in one place. At the Tuzla morgue.

And the man immediately responsible for them has already been convicted by DelPonte. See my post about Krstic above.

Words cannot express the disgust I feel for anyone who would post such a thing as you just did.

[Ronly Bonly Jones]

The Bosnian Moslem president published a book in which he advocates converting all the Christians to Islam, and using the Islamic Sharia law on all Bosnians.>>>

No he didn't do any such thing. That lie has been repeated so many times by the Bosnian Serb Nazis under Karadzic that stupid people take it as truth.

Next, are you going to tell us that the Holocaust is a myth?

[Ronly Bonly Jones]

My ignorance is complete, whereas the fact you use a UN site to back your claims for said mass graves. >>>

No, I'm using the ICTY site to prove that someone has been convicted of genocide. I don't have to prove that the genocide happened. I saw the murdered, the murder sites, the mass graves, the dead, the widows, the orphans, and not a few of the mass murderers with my own eyes.

[Ronly Bonly Jones]

Hey brain damage, I don't post war porn. You want to get your rocks off, you're going to have to search the net yourself.

[Ronly Bonly Jones]

The mass murder at Srebrenica is historic fact. Serb Nazis (and a few demented morons on FR) like to pretend it didn't happen. Unfortunately the stench of the place does not allow me to stay silent in the face of lies.

[Ronly Bonly Jones]

But, we just simply don't (and won't) see "eye-to-eye" on this. And somehow I think you know that.>>

I don't care whether you agree with me or not. My job is to say what I saw. And what I saw was the undeniable aftereffects mass murder and genocide. You want to pretend that it didn't happen, go ahead.

[norton]

thanks, you make me proud

[Dave S]

I don't think this is quite correct. Turkey is a secular country with a majority moslem population. Not a moslem country. Subtle but important differnce

Using the same logic you could say the US is not a Christian nation. It is a secular country with a majority Christian population. Turkey is not an Islamic state like Iran but it is a moslem country.

[joan]

Ronly speaks of all the bodies they've been able to find and collect in a large area from something like 60km from Srebrenica all the way around - in an area where Muslim troops attacked Serbs villages, in an area where there was fighting over 3 1/2 years. It also wouldn't surprise me if bodies from WWII massacres were dug up as well. The bodies are unidentified and most probably Serbs. Names corresponding with autopsy reports are kept unavailable to the public and researchers.

[joan]

You don't know who those bodies belonged to Serbs or Muslims. You have no names for us. You don't show where we can get autopsy reports. There WERE battle deaths, there WERE mine accidents, car accidents, etc. - even the UN soldiers, during the fall of Srebrenica, admitted they ran over people in the streets.

[HELLRAISER II]

Well I don't know if you're right or your wrong about Muslims in general, but if you saw this with your own eyes i'll give you the benefit of the doubt. War is hell and it's unfortunate that anyone EVER has to deal with it, you do however have to understand we are commenting on things we've read and as such can only express our feelings on said issues. However we weren't there so i'd be the last to throw stones at your testimony, glad you made it through it.

[Hoplite]

Joan.

Over 1,000 of those bodies have been identified as Muslims who disappeared from Srebrenica after the Serbs took over in July.

Numerous Serbs have elocuted to both the pre-existing plan to murder their prisoners, and the part they played in executing those plans.

As I've said previously, your denials of what happened at Srebrenica are more a reflection of a lack of character and honesty on your part than anything having to do with the events at Srebrenica.

Get a clue already.

[LjubivojeRadosavljevic]

["You want to pretend that it didn't happen, go ahead."]

I'm not pretending.
All sides (Muslims, Croats, and Serbs) were involved in the killing innocent civilians.

The problem I have is with the bias against the Serbs.