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To: Dialup Llama
The Gospel says Mary's soul was pierced by sorrow, this movie will show what that means. It will show why Peter was so fearful that he denied knowing Jesus. Ebert was right. There will be no religious or devotional depictions to make these events pretty. The critics will howl because they are not getting the stoytelling Jesus that they are used to, they are getting Jesus as savior- someone they have never seen before in film.

You nailed it.

102 posted on 02/24/2004 5:33:45 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Dialup Llama; Aquinasfan; missyme
"The Gospel says Mary's soul was pierced by sorrow, this movie will show what that means. It will show why Peter was so fearful that he denied knowing Jesus. Ebert was right. There will be no religious or devotional depictions to make these events pretty. The critics will howl because they are not getting the stoytelling Jesus that they are used to, they are getting Jesus as savior- someone they have never seen before in film."

"You nailed it."

My sentiments too. I meant to mention that. Hopefully, they wil take this opportunity to see the error of their ways:

Mat 27:16 And they had then a notable prisoner, called Barabbas. 17 Therefore when they were gathered together, Pilate said unto them, Whom will ye that I release unto you? Barabbas, or Jesus which is called Christ? 18 For he knew that for envy they had delivered him. 19 When he was set down on the judgment seat, his wife sent unto him, saying, Have thou nothing to do with that just man: for I have suffered many things this day in a dream because of him.

20 But the chief priests and elders persuaded the multitude that they should ask BARABBAS, AND DESTROY JESUS.

21 The governor answered and said unto them, Whether of the twain will ye that I release unto you? They said, Barabbas. 22 Pilate saith unto them, What shall I do then with Jesus which is called Christ? [They] all say unto him, LET HIM BE CRUCIFIED. 23 And the governor said, Why, what evil hath he done? But they cried out the more, saying, Let him be crucified. 24 When Pilate saw that he could prevail nothing, but [that] rather a tumult was made, he took water, and washed [his] hands before the multitude, saying, I am innocent of the blood of this just person: see ye [to it]. 25 Then answered all the people, and said, His blood [be] on us, and on our children.
http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Mat/Mat027.html#20

Greek for 912
BARABBAS {bar-ab-bas'}

TDNT Reference Root Word
Not Available of Aramaic origin 01247 and 05

BARABBAS - "SON [BAR] OF A FATHER OR MASTER [ABBAS]

1) the captive ROBBER whom the Jews begged Pilate to release instead of Christ

Compare with the word ABBA:
Greek for 5

Pronunciation Guide
Abba {ab-bah'}

TDNT Reference Root Word
TDNT - 1:5,1 of Aramaic origin 02

ABBA = "FATHER"

1) father, customary title used of God in prayer. Whenever it occurs in the New Testament it has the Greek interpretation joined to it, that is apparently to be explained by the fact that the Chaldee "ABBA" through frequent use in prayer, gradually acquired the nature of a most sacred proper name, to which the Greek speaking Jews added the name from their own tongue.

Mar 14:36 And he said, ABBA, FATHER, all things [are] possible unto thee; take away this cup from me: nevertheless not what I will, but what thou wilt.

Rom 8:15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, ABBA, Father.

Gal 4:6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, ABBA, FATHER.

Compare with:

Jhn 8:44 Ye are of [YOUR] FATHER THE DEVIL, and the lusts of your father ye will do. HE WAS A MURDERER FROM THE BEGINNING, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Jhn/8/44.html

Jhn 10:1 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a ROBBER. http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Jhn/Jhn010.html#1

So the first time around, Israel chose symbollically (??) the SON OF THE DEVIL to be released to them INSTEAD OF THE SON OF GOD!

The GOOD NEWS regarding THE CURSE "May His blood be on us and our children", and God willing, may this controversy SOON be put to REST:

2Ki 14:6 But the children of the murderers he slew not: according unto that which is written in the book of the law of Moses, wherein the LORD commanded, saying, The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, nor the children be put to death for the fathers; but EVERY MAN SHALL BE PUT TO DEATH FOR HIS OWN SIN:


Rom 11:18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.

Rom 11:19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in.

Rom 11:20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:

Rom 11:21 For if God spared not the natural branches, [take heed] lest he also spare not thee.

Rom 11:22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in [his] goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.

Rom 11:23 AND THEY ALSO, +++ IF THEY ABIDE NOT STILL IN UNBELIEF, SHALL BE GRAFFED IN: FOR GOD IS ABLE TO GRAFF THEM IN AGAIN.

Rom 11:24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural [branches], be graffed into their own olive tree?

Rom 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

Rom 11:27 For this [is] my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

Rom 11:28 As concerning the gospel, [they are] enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, [they are] beloved for the fathers' sakes.

Rom 11:29 For the gifts and calling of God [are] without repentance.

Rom 11:30 For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief:

Rom 11:31 Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy. [THIS is where the 'Keys of David' come in. The LOOSING and BINDING have to do with FORGIVENESS. Mat 6:12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors. http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Mat/6/12.html See the PARABLE at Matthew 18 http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Mat/18/18.html AND
http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Luk/9/1.html THIS is how ALL ISRAEL IS SAVED, from JESUS forgiving them first, Stephen second, and then the disciples and all the other martyrs for Christ through the ages. ]

Rom 11:32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.

Rom 11:33 O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable [are] his judgments, and his ways past finding out!

Rom 11:34 For who hath known the mind of the Lord? or who hath been his counsellor?

Rom 11:35 Or who hath first given to him, and it shall be recompensed unto him again?

Rom 11:36 For of him, and through him, and to him, [are] all things: to whom [be] glory for ever. Amen.
http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Rom/Rom011.html#23


Jhn 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, [even] the Son of man which is in heaven.

Jhn 3:14 AND AS MOSES LIFTED UP THE SERPENT IN THE WILDERNESS, EVEN SO MUST THE SON OF MAN BE LIFTED UP: http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Jhn/3/14.html

Jhn 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Jhn/3/16.html

All of John 3:
http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Jhn/Jhn003.html#16
105 posted on 02/24/2004 7:12:52 AM PST by Ethan_Allen (Gen. 32:24-32 'man'=Jesus http://www.preteristarchive.com/Jesus_is_Israel/index.html)
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