C-Span Alert (Debate begins this morning @ 9:30am on S. 1805 & Assasult Weapons Ban Renewal)

[Rams82]

How are they going to enforce this law?? Have the ATF do spot checks at 3:00 a.m.?

[Dead Corpse]

The Boxer Amendment requires that gun lock be sold with all new handgun purchases. $2500 fine if your unlocked gun is used in an accident, stolen and used in crime, ect... It also REQUIRES that firearms manufacturers have integral locking devices and load indicators.

We are waiting for the amendment to be added to Thomas.loc.gov to see exactly what it DOES say.

[Monty22]

"The Boxer Amendment... requiring locks on all guns... even in your own home. Might as well call it the Surrender To The Criminals Instead Of Defending Yourself Act."

Hey, but at least gun makers can't be sued.. Way to go NRA/reps.

[Dead Corpse]

Bullsh*t Shooter. We were sold out by at least 20 Republicans.

[Monty22]

If this thing doesn't die, I'm sending back my RNC cards, NRA cards, and anything else I have to show I supported them. They can stuff it.

[Mo1]

Be prepared .. Uncle Teddy is just warming up

Yep .. there he goes .. screaming about alcohol .. LOL

[OXENinFLA]

Vote Summary ---------To amend chapter 44 of title 18, United States Code, to require the provision of a child safety device in connection with the transfer of a handgun and to provide safety standards for child safety devices.

The link to the amendment isn't up yet.

[StriperSniper]

Liquor and guns, you should be more worried about liquor and cars Mr. Swimmer.

Oh! and now for states rights also...yeah right.

[Monty22]

Cornyn went Nay..

But otherwise, I'm horrified. Just horrified.

[Dead Corpse]

Small bright spot. At least Cornyn voted against the Boxer Amendment.

[Ancesthntr]

Wake the F**** up. We were destroyed by the dems. Why on earth do you want them in power?

Shooter, the simple fact is that nothing - zip, zilch, nada - could pass either House if the Pubbies didn't want it to. The fact that an amendment like Boxer's could be added is the fault of the Republicans that lack the principles to oppose it.

If we are being screwed openly by one party and in secret by the other, WTF is the difference?

Of course, I will wait to see what (if anything) actually gets to Bush's desk. But seeing a vote like this is VERY discouraging and isn't having a saluatory effect on my blood pressure.

[DBrow]

$2500 fine if your unlocked gun is used in an accident, stolen and used in crime, ect...

And if the criminal uses a Bridgeport at school to take your lock off, you get the chance to convince a jury that it was locked up last time you saw it!

This is unenforceable; it is just intended to make fencesitters turn in their guns. When they offer a Gunlock Amnesty Turnin with a $50 certificate for ToysRUs the line will be longer.

[Dead Corpse]

Brownback (R-KS)
Chafee (R-RI)
Cochran (R-MS)
Coleman (R-MN)
Collins (R-ME)
DeWine (R-OH)
Domenici (R-NM)
Fitzgerald (R-IL)
Frist (R-TN)
Grassley (R-IA)
Gregg (R-NH)
Hagel (R-NE)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Lugar (R-IN)
McCain (R-AZ)
McConnell (R-KY)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Roberts (R-KS)
Santorum (R-PA)
Smith (R-OR)
Snowe (R-ME)
Stevens (R-AK)
Voinovich (R-OH)
Warner (R-VA)

Every single one of the above sold us out to Barbara Boxer.

[Monty22]

This has enough mandate to override a veto at this point, doesn't it.

I've never felt so utterly turned on. The republicans are going to lose a paying member over this.

[Dead Corpse]

Kennedy is ranting about "proliferation" in Gun Free Zones. You know, those places that criminals now target as easy prey?

Gah... what a jackass.

[Shooter 2.5]

Out of how many? You were told time and time again we don't have the votes in the Senate like we do in the House. You were told time and time again the only hope we have is to stop the AWB is in the House where the Republicans have a pro-gun majority.

And your solution is to allow more dems into power.

You two are either stupid or Sara Brady is using your computer.

[looscnnn]

"We were destroyed by the dems."

Really? We have 70 dems in the Senate? I don't think so.

[Monty22]

Excuse me.. Look at 613. Then tell me we 'have enough votes' anywhere if this happens? Our side just totally and intentionally shove it up ours.

[OXENinFLA]

COP KILLER BULLTES?????

[Rams82]

Whats that website again Teddy?