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Teresa Heinz Kerry: My Black Friends Call Me African American
NewsMax.com ^ | Feb. 25, 2004 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 02/25/2004 9:41:48 AM PST by Carl/NewsMax

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To: Carl/NewsMax
It would be interseting to find out what her 'not-friends' call her...
21 posted on 02/25/2004 10:14:36 AM PST by CommandoFrank (If GW is the terrorist's worst nightmare, Kerry is their wet dream...)
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To: AuH2ORepublican
You are correct factually and logically, but when Heinz describes herself as "African American" she is claiming some particular sensitivity to and affinity with Black Americans; she is not just making a factual statement about being from Africa. But the white South Africans could make the same claim as Heinz and nobody would give them credit for racial sensitivity! Far from it!
22 posted on 02/25/2004 10:16:54 AM PST by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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To: rightwingcrazy
LOL Good one!

Not to mention those who were born in Siam or Indochina...

They don't even have those names any more!
23 posted on 02/25/2004 10:21:42 AM PST by imintrouble
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To: Carl/NewsMax
http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/07/11/nyt.kristof/

Is Race Real?

By Nicholas D. Kristof
New York Times Op-Ed Columnist
Friday, July 11, 2003 Posted: 7:02 AM EDT (1102 GMT)
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OXFORD, England -- I had my DNA examined by a prominent genetic specialist here, and what do you know! It turns out I'm African-American.

The mitochondria in my cells show that I'm descended from a matriarch who lived in Africa, possibly in present-day Ethiopia or Kenya.

O.K., this was 70,000 years ago, and she seems to be a common ancestor of all Asians as well as all Caucasians. Still, these kinds of DNA analyses illuminate the raging scientific debate about whether there is anything real to the notion of race.

"There's no genetic basis for any kind of rigid ethnic or racial classification at all," said Bryan Sykes, the Oxford geneticist and author of "The Seven Daughters of Eve." "I'm always asked is there Greek DNA or an Italian gene, but, of course, there isn't. . . . We're very closely related."

Likewise, The New England Journal of Medicine once editorialized bluntly that "race is biologically meaningless."

Take me. Dr. Sykes looked at a sequence of my mitochondrial DNA to place me on a kind of global family tree. It would have been nice to learn that my ancestors hailed from a village on Loch Ness, but ancestry can almost never be pegged that precisely, and I appear to be a mongrel. One of my variants, for example, is scattered among people in Finland, Poland, Armenia, the Netherlands, Scotland, Israel, Germany and Norway.

On the other hand, is race really "biologically meaningless"? Bigotry has been so destructive that it's tempting to dismiss race and ethnicity as artificial, but there are genuine differences among population groups.

Jews are more likely to carry mutations for Tay-Sachs, Africans for sickle cell anemia. It's hard to argue that ethnicity is an empty concept when one gene mutation for an iron storage disease, hemochromatosis, affects fewer than 1 percent of Armenians but 8 percent of Norwegians.

"There is great value in racial/ ethnic self-categorizations" for medicine, protested an article last year by a Stanford geneticist, Neil Risch, in Genome Biology. It warned against "ignoring our differences, even if with the best of intentions."

DNA does tend to differ, very slightly, with race. Profilers thought a recent serial killer in Louisiana was white until a DNA sample indicated he was probably black. (A black man has been arrested in the case.) As genetic science advances, the police may eventually be able to recover semen and put out an A.P.B. for a tall white rapist with red curly hair, blue eyes and perhaps a Scottish surname.

On the other hand, genetic markers associated with Africans can turn up in people who look entirely white. Indians and Pakistanis may have dark skin, but genetic markers show that they are Caucasians.

Another complication is that African-Americans are, on average, about 17 percent white: they have mitochondria (maternally inherited) that are African, but they often have European Y chromosomes. In other words, white men raped or seduced their maternal ancestors.

Among Jews, there are common genetic markers, including some found in about half the Jewish men named Cohen. But this isn't exactly a Jewish gene: the same marker is also found in Arabs.

"Genetics research is now about to end our long misadventure with the idea of race," Steve Olson writes in his new book, "Mapping Human History."

When I lived in Japan in the 1990's, my son Gregory had a play date with a classmate I hadn't met. I asked Gregory, then 5, whether the boy's mother was Japanese.

"I don't know," Gregory replied.

"Well," I asked sharply, "did she look Japanese or American?" Although he'd lived in Tokyo for years, Gregory replied blankly, "What does a Japanese person look like?"

He was ahead of his time. Genetics increasingly shows that racial and ethnic distinctions are real � but often fuzzy and greatly exaggerated. Genetics will increasingly show that most humans are mongrels, and it will make a mockery of racism.

"There are meaningful distinctions among groups that may have implications for disease susceptibility," said Harry Ostrer, a genetics expert at the New York University School of Medicine. "The right-wing version of this is `The Bell Curve,' and that's pseudoscience � that's not real. But there can be a middle ground between left-wing political correctness and right-wing meanness."

I'll be searching for that middle ground this year as I'm celebrating Kwanzaa.

* * *

Genetic Bazaar

Anyone can get a DNA analysis to try to shed light on genetic origins, but for now don't expect to be pegged too precisely. Bryan Sykes of Oxford University founded a company that offers analyses based on the rubric in his book "The Seven Daughters of Eve," and more information is available at www.Oxfordancestors.com. That's the company I used. An alternative is an American company offering DNA analyses with a genealogy focus, www.familytreedna.com.

24 posted on 02/25/2004 10:41:31 AM PST by SteveH
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To: reed_inthe_wind
But Ron Walters, chairman of the political science department at Howard University, objected to Heinz Kerry's use of the term regardless of the hyphen. Walters told the Sentinel that she was not African, but a European living in Africa.

Teresa Heinz was born in Africa, Mr. Walters, she didn't just "live there".

What does Walter's call whites born in Australia who are naturalized US citizens? European-Americans or Australian-Americans?

So to Walters, Heinz was a "European-African", since her family was from Europe, and she was born in Africa, correct? If not, then the term "African-American" is not correct when describing a black American. I guess Heinz can call herself "European-African-American", since her family was from Europe, she was born in Africa, now is an American citizen.

In any event, the term "African-American" to denote "black" is used incorrectly. Now, everybody or anybody with dark skin, regardless of whether they've been to America or not, are now called "African-American".

When you think of it, it could be very disrespectful to blacks who are not citizens of the US to call them "African-American", since in their minds, you are elevating the US blacks over their country's blacks. It is equivalent to going to Athens, and calling Greeks "Scotsmen", "Swedes", or "Americans".

25 posted on 02/25/2004 10:45:59 AM PST by PallMal
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To: AuH2ORepublican
millions of blacks are neither African nor are they U.S. citizens---so do we have to call then African-Brazilians or African-Canadians

I tell you one thing -- don't call them "African-Americans" to their face. Many will get offended.

26 posted on 02/25/2004 10:48:35 AM PST by PallMal
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To: Carl/NewsMax
bump
27 posted on 02/25/2004 10:52:28 AM PST by An American In Dairyland
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To: Carl/NewsMax
Well, maybe she could lend her support to the two American students of Afrikaner ancestry who were forbidden to call themselves "African Americans" by the PC thought police at I forget which university recently.
28 posted on 02/25/2004 11:33:14 AM PST by The_Reader_David
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To: SteveH
Interesting article:

If we go back far enough we are all related and what our divisions become according to physical attributions are a matter of environmental survival with some intermarriage utilizing the strength of some strains.

What I think we are "terroritorial about" is culture and tradition. What we have grown up to believe is "the way" to conduct our day to day living and our social exchanges among our peers.

Race is a four letter word which has become a hot potato and I think there are far more meaningful descriptives of mankind that what "race" they happen to belong within.

Even then it is an accident what part of our shrinking planet we are born to, and where we grow up and adapt to our surroundings would to me, seem more significant.

I see it in immigrant families where the parents are culturally removed from their modern children who have been schooled in a western society.

Trouble with all of us is we look for "superiority" among ourselves, rather than the positives which have allowed our "races" to survive throughout the ages.

Perhaps by learning the positives we can assimilate with less bitterness and desire for "besting" the others.
29 posted on 02/25/2004 12:40:38 PM PST by imintrouble
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To: Carl/NewsMax
I'll bet some of Mr. and Mrs. Kerry's closest friends are from Washington D.C.'s inner city. Not. (Maybe they take out the garbage, cook the meals, and clean the toilets.)
30 posted on 02/25/2004 12:55:12 PM PST by hershey
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To: Carl/NewsMax
"First lady wannabe Teresa Heinz Kerry once insisted that her black friends think of her as African American...."

Gag me with a spoon.

31 posted on 02/25/2004 12:55:32 PM PST by GigaDittos (Bumper sticker: "Vote Democrat, it's easier than getting a job.")
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To: Carl/NewsMax
Well, frankly, the term should be American African in any case, since you are now and American and from, by extraction, Africa.

Or is it just a way the civil rights separatists re-inforce the notion that you're really African, not American?

It doesn't seem to me that programming people to define themselves with the less-relevant past over the here-and-now reality of where they are is the best thing for them.

32 posted on 02/25/2004 1:25:21 PM PST by atomicpossum (Only Hillary Will Lick Bush in '04!)
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To: cyborg
"Such is the folly of labels and identification."

well, names do have meaning. . .significance; but surely the real folly is when people; arrogant people, use names simply for political advantage; with total disregard for the truth. . .

But the worst is the arrogance of under-estimating one's audience.

Libs will never get it. . .

33 posted on 02/25/2004 2:37:45 PM PST by cricket
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To: cricket
Liberals will take a treasure and make it into trash. You're names do mean things but not for opportunists as anything is expendable.
34 posted on 02/25/2004 2:56:20 PM PST by cyborg
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To: AuH2ORepublican
personally, i've always understood "African American" to refer to people whose ancestors came from Africa as slaves and who have lived in the Americas (US or otherwise) for hundreds of years. It is a creole culture like that of European Americans, but heavily influenced by sub-Saharan African culture, especially West Africa and the Congo basin.

African Americans in the US have had a different collective experience than Afro-Cubans, etc but still much closer than that of white Africans, etc. in the US.

The term may be ambiguous, but the meaning is quite clear. people on the right and left exploit the semantic loopholes without attempting to actually draw themselves closer to African-American culture.
35 posted on 02/25/2004 9:13:06 PM PST by zimdog
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To: AuH2ORepublican

Is she a naturalized citizen? I cannot find confirmation of that. One and only one google search result was that she became a citizen when she married Heinz (because she married him she was a citizen, or she took the test and became a citizen?) There is NO verification that she IS a Citizen that I can pull up. I do not think marrying a citizen gaines one a citizenship now, nor or in the recent past. Why is there no information about this?


36 posted on 07/11/2004 12:48:35 PM PDT by wingnuts'nbolts (Keep your eye on the donut, not on the hole.)
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