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To: Pikamax
Caiaphas says, "His blood be on us and our children," for allowing the crucifixion to happen.

Caiaphas didn't actually say this...the bible states 'the crowd' said it....however it was Caiaphas and those Jewish religious leaders acting in concert agitated the crowd to do so..

It is important to remember that Jesus laid down his life willingly...that he did so in obedience to God the Father

Jesus knew that he had to come to earth be born a human being live a perfect life in order to be that perfect sacrifice 'the law of God' demanded

Jesus also said that anytime he would ask...His Father in Heaven would send a legion of His angels to come to earth and fight for Jesus...

A legion of Angels could have not only wasted the Romans off the face of the earth in ten seconds or less they could have wiped the face of the earth off the earth...in under ten seconds...

Jesus volunteered knowing in advance full well what He would have to suffer for our sins... and did it anyway...The Romans...Some of the Jewish Religious leaders and all who sinned are guilty...

To blame Jews for killing Jesus is unfair...for it was also Jews who gave us the Lord...and who formed the early church and wrote the New Testament...It was Jewish Christians who were almost all murdered ...bringing the gospel of the risen Christ to all of mankind....us gentiles...

Fothis we are deeply intdebted to the Jews and Israel..and why many of us also support Israel and as the Lord commanded us to "Pray for the Peace of Israel"

imo

29 posted on 02/25/2004 12:46:33 PM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: Salem
What's wrong with this guy?
76 posted on 02/25/2004 2:24:07 PM PST by yonif ("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
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To: joesnuffy; SJackson; yonif; Simcha7; American in Israel; spectacularbid2003; Binyamin; ...
This sign serves absolutely no purpose whatsoever except to be inflammatory and controversial, thus to draw attention to themselves. The True Church is not a secular organization to employ tactics like this to publish the Gospel. As we can see the response on this thread, it causes more damage then the percieved "good" I am assuming at this point those who put it up are seeking to accomplish.

Contact information for this church is as follows:

tel: 303.777.8888
address: 999 S. Colorado Blvd.
Denver, CO 80246

email: mrgacts238@aol.com

I would ask that anybody from a Christian background contact this outfit and let them know how this is coming off "in the real world." Post any responses.

'Ping' on joesnuffy's comments on the rest of the thread at 29. Thanks, Joe. Cooler heads and sounder theology will prevail in this.






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79 posted on 02/25/2004 2:29:03 PM PST by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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To: joesnuffy
Beautifully written, joesnuffy! Thank you!
80 posted on 02/25/2004 2:30:52 PM PST by EagleMamaMT
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To: joesnuffy
Because it's like when Jesus would heal the sick. I can't think of the citations now, but he would say things like I heal your physical illnesses and you will become ill again. See that your spirit is well that you may go to the Father and never be sick again.

Likewise he could have wiped the Romans off the earth, but it wouldn't have changed human nature any. It would have just created a power vacuum and another millenium of darkness. As it turned out, the Roman Empire was NECESSARY to spread the word of the Gospel far and wide.

This pastor may be misguided, but I don't think we need to go all PC on him. He's entitled to his opinion. Remember that concept?
85 posted on 02/25/2004 2:50:14 PM PST by johnb838 (J. Effing Kerry, Esq., Traitor, Benedict Arnold was a war hero)
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To: joesnuffy
Outstanding post.
90 posted on 02/25/2004 3:06:13 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Pre-empt the third murder attempt-- Pray for Terry Schiavo!)
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To: joesnuffy
Amen to #29.
112 posted on 02/25/2004 9:40:36 PM PST by Delphinium
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