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Kerry, Edwards Differ on Trade, Death Penalty (Ketchup Boy's BIZARRE Death Penalty Stand)
Reuters via Yahoo! News ^ | February 27, 2004 | John Whitesides

Posted on 02/27/2004 4:37:34 AM PST by PJ-Comix

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Democratic presidential hopefuls John Kerry and John Edwards sparred over trade and the death penalty in a debate on Thursday and each said he had the best chance to defeat President Bush in November.

But Edwards, seeking gain ground against front-runner Kerry, made no effort to attack or draw sharp distinctions with the Massachusetts senator on most issues just five days before a crucial 10-state "Super Tuesday" showdown, and the two agreed frequently.

The prime contenders for the nomination to challenge Bush defended their votes to authorize the war in Iraq (news - web sites), and said they opposed gay marriage but believed the issue should be left to the states.

Kerry, who has dominated the Democratic race with wins in 18 of the first 20 contests, said he favored the death penalty only in cases of terrorism. But asked in the debate at the University of Southern California about a child killer, he said he would "want to strangle that person with my own hands."

Edwards, who favors the death penalty, said it would fit such cases as the murder of James Byrd, a black man dragged to death behind a truck in Texas.

Kerry took issue with Edwards' contention he would be the strongest candidate in the South and that he attracted the most support among the independent voters whom Democrats will need to win in November.

"There's nothing, nothing in the returns in 18 out of 20 primaries and caucuses so far that documents what John Edwards has just said," Kerry said.

"I won in Tennessee and I won in Virginia," said the four-term U.S. senator. "John has said many times, 'We've got to stop stereotyping the people in the South.' The people in the South believe the same things as people in the rest of the country."

Edwards, a first-term senator from North Carolina who was a trial lawyer before he was elected in 1998, said polls in states like Wisconsin, Tennessee and Virginia showed he performed better with independents.

He touted his outsider perspective and working-class background as the son of a mill worker, saying it made him better suited to tackle problems in Washington.

"We need a candidate at the top of this ticket who can connect with voters everywhere in America," Edwards said. "And if we don't have that, we're going to be in trouble."

Along with a Sunday debate in New York, the two forums offer Edwards his most public platform to stop Kerry's march to the nomination to face Bush in November.

The 10 states that vote on Tuesday include big prizes like California, New York and Ohio. A total of 1,151 delegates are at stake, more than half of the 2,162 needed to win. Kerry would not have enough delegates to win the nomination with another dominating performance, but Edwards would have little incentive to push on.

TRADE, IRAQ AND GAY MARRIAGE

Edwards has made his opposition to the North American Free Trade Agreement and his plans to protect American jobs the centerpiece of his recent campaigning. In the debate, he pointed to votes on fast-track trade authority for the president, and trade pacts with Chile, Singapore, African and Caribbean nations that he opposed and Kerry supported.

"There is a difference between Senator Kerry and myself," Edwards said. "These agreements did not have the kind of labor and environmental protections that needed to be in the text of the agreement and be enforced."

But he was not in the Senate when it voted on NAFTA in 1993, and Kerry questioned how strongly he opposed it. He said he supported the trade pacts that Edwards opposed because they had strong mechanisms to enforce labor and environmental protections.

Pressed to justify their votes to support a congressional resolution on Iraq, Edwards said, "All of us did what we thought was the responsible thing to do at the time -- wrong or right." But he refused to say whether he regretted his vote.

Kerry said he did not regret his vote, but "I regret that we have a president of the United States who misled America and broke every promise he made to the United States Congress."

Neither Kerry nor Edwards back gay marriage but neither supports a constitutional amendment to ban it. They criticized Bush for wanting to amend the Constitution to ban it.

"He's doing this because he's in trouble," said Kerry. "He's playing politics with the Constitution of the United States." (Additional reporting by Patricia Wilson, Deborah Charles)


TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; deathpenalty; democratdebate; edwards; issues; johnedwards; johnkerry; kerry; marriage; trade
Kerry, who has dominated the Democratic race with wins in 18 of the first 20 contests, said he favored the death penalty only in cases of terrorism.

Yet somehow Ketchup boy opposes the death penalty for domestic terrorists known as murderers. I don't see the moral distinction here. BTW, this is also a switch for Ketchup Boy because in the past he was AGAINST the death penalty for terrorists.

But asked in the debate at the University of Southern California about a child killer, he said he would "want to strangle that person with my own hands."

What a jerk! And yet he STILL opposes the death penalty for child killers. Another example of Ketchup Boy trying to have it both ways. Ultimately the Death Penalty issue will prove to be a Death Penalty on his campaign. Voters feel too strongly about this issue to give Ketchup Boy a pass.

1 posted on 02/27/2004 4:37:34 AM PST by PJ-Comix
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Bill Clinton as a Democrat (when he was Governor Of Arkansas) carried out the death penalty whenever he could. John F. Kerry sounds like Michael Dukakis, his old boss back in Massachusetts - I wonder if he said that by rote or if he actually showed passion? The famous question from Bernie Sanders about what would you do to the guy who raped and murdered your wife to Dukakis in 1988 tripped him up and he looked like a deer frozen in the headlights. Americans are in favor of the death penalty and I don't think Kerry's wishy-washiness on the subject will impress them overmuch.
2 posted on 02/27/2004 4:45:30 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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Bill Clinton as a Democrat (when he was Governor Of Arkansas) carried out the death penalty whenever he could.

Ultimate power trip for Clinton.

3 posted on 02/27/2004 4:50:33 AM PST by barker (''If I wanted a constant sound of defeat in my ears I would vote Democrat'' Dale Dudas.)
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To: PJ-Comix
Sounds like JFKerry want to be the executioner himself.

Too much Vietman killing left in his own hands.
4 posted on 02/27/2004 4:51:15 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: PJ-Comix
After watching the debate last night, an objective review of John Edwards performance is that is he is weak and has no real fire in his belly! He is toast! As for Kerry, please take note that the American people are slowly getting a good, objective look at him. I predict he will implode over the next couple of months. He is the pinnacle of sleaze! He's done!
5 posted on 02/27/2004 4:52:18 AM PST by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: Just mythoughts
I wonder if he'll show passion in a debate if he's asked the same question as Dukakis.' Its very illuminating about a person's true values and once Americans found out Dukakis couldn't be bothered to the point of anger to kill the SOB who raped and murdered his wife, they knew right then and there he wasn't presidential material.
6 posted on 02/27/2004 4:53:56 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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But Edwards, seeking gain ground against front-runner Kerry, made no effort to attack or draw sharp distinctions with the Massachusetts senator

Perhaps he is deluding himself, but I believe Edwards has stopped running for President. He is now running for VP and he hopes that his good friend John Kerry will consider him for the position.

7 posted on 02/27/2004 4:54:46 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (You can see it coming like a train on a track.)
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They're both liberals and their positions are practically indistinguishable. The only real difference between the Two Johns is that Edwards looks telegenic.
8 posted on 02/27/2004 4:57:06 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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The vast majority of Southerners believe in GOD, guns, morality,and the death penalty. We also believe in LOW TAXES!

hanoi john is the one OUT OF TOUCH with the average Southerner.

9 posted on 02/27/2004 5:03:01 AM PST by GailA (Millington Rally for America after action http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/872519/posts)
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But asked in the debate at the University of Southern California about a child killer, he said he would "want to strangle that person with my own hands."

No trial. No verdict. No appeal. Just the F Man deciding who deserves to be killed by his own hands. How special. Talk about unilateralism.

10 posted on 02/27/2004 5:19:20 AM PST by 07055
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JFKerry -- passion. This guy has only one passion and this is for himself.

The biggest rise I expect to see out of him would be if someone asked him to release his military records.

Other than that his mind works over time taking every side of an issue.

I don't want that question to come from President Bush either.
11 posted on 02/27/2004 5:20:36 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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No trial. No verdict. No appeal. Just the F Man deciding who deserves to be killed by his own hands. How special. Talk about unilateralism.

You would think he would want to get the UN's permission before killing a dangerous murderer.

12 posted on 02/27/2004 5:33:44 AM PST by TN4Liberty
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Wow I am a little stunned by this news.

Even Bubba knew that for him to get elected he at the least needed to be for the death penalty. Its one of those things one needs to believe in if one wishes to be elected President in America - especially if you are a "rat". I thought the "rats" learned this lesson in 1988.

hawk

13 posted on 02/27/2004 5:36:39 AM PST by hawkaw
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To: PJ-Comix
John F'ing Kerry wants to have everything like the 9/10 crowd, but can't take a stand on anything.


14 posted on 02/27/2004 5:38:22 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (WARNING! DumbocRATs never met a tax increase they didn't like.)
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These morons all came out against gay marriage last night, but were also against an amendment preventing it. How convenient for them. These were the same jag officers who were for res. 1441, but against war.
15 posted on 02/27/2004 6:13:47 AM PST by RightthinkinAmerican (Try and tackle ME, Franken.)
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Kerry, who has dominated the Democratic race with wins in 18 of the first 20 contests, said he favored the death penalty only in cases of terrorism. But asked in the debate at the University of Southern California about a child killer, he said he would "want to strangle that person with my own hands."

"But they may have to pump a few .50 rounds into him first."

(Pssssssstttt.....Kerry was in Viet Nam, pass it on....)

16 posted on 02/27/2004 8:32:55 AM PST by atomicpossum (I wish I had time for a nervous breakdown.)
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bump for current consumption


17 posted on 07/13/2004 5:53:39 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (Kerry: how can we trust him with our money, if Teresa won't trust him with hers!)
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To: RightthinkinAmerican

bump


18 posted on 07/13/2004 5:54:06 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (Kerry: how can we trust him with our money, if Teresa won't trust him with hers!)
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bump, differences between the boys


19 posted on 07/13/2004 5:54:42 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (Kerry: how can we trust him with our money, if Teresa won't trust him with hers!)
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How can any man support death for the Innocent and life for the guilty?

Doesn't life for the innocent (pro life) and death for the guilty (death penalty) make more sense ?

20 posted on 07/13/2004 5:57:57 AM PDT by ChadGore (Vote Bush. He's Earned It.)
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