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My Son and War
Painfully typed in from the American Legion Magazine, Vol, 156, No. 1, pp. 30-31 | January 2004 | Frank Schaeffer

Posted on 03/06/2004 9:06:29 AM PST by sauropod

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To: sauropod
Keeping Faith : A Father-Son Story About Love and the United States Marine Corps
by John Schaeffer (Author), Frank Schaeffer (Author)

Good synopsis and reviews on the Amazon link. The Father/Son authors were on C-SPAN last year. I still remember Frank Schaeffer describing his journey to Parris Island for John's graduation from Basic Training.

21 posted on 03/06/2004 9:28:15 AM PST by leadpenny
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To: sauropod
"There has been a 'disconnect' between the men and women who defend our nation and those who are the beneficiaries of that service."

This guy absolutely nails it.

He certainly does. Put another way, just before WWII:......."People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - George Orwell.

It's not that the "ready rough men" are any rougher, it is that those who peaceably sleep, work, study, have become softer.

22 posted on 03/06/2004 9:30:19 AM PST by elbucko
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To: sauropod
Great post. Godspeed to all the troops and their families
23 posted on 03/06/2004 9:30:22 AM PST by paul51
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To: sauropod; Kathy in Alaska; MoJo2001; LindaSOG; LaDivaLoca; Fawnn; Bethbg79; bentfeather; ...
PING for a great article!
sauropod : Thanks!
24 posted on 03/06/2004 9:31:26 AM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Thank You Troops, Past and Present)
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To: sauropod
A quick post and run (REAL busy!)

http://www.frankschaeffer.net/pages/1/index.htm
http://www.orthodoxytoday.org/articles/SchaefferMyHeart.htm

25 posted on 03/06/2004 9:32:35 AM PST by FormerlyAnotherLurker (Barrett M82A1)
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To: JohnGalt; Burkeman1; billbears
Pack your bags, gentlemen. We're going on a guilt trip.
...Some of us served. Many, including me, did not. Vietnam was our excuse. I say excuse because since that war ended, the upper classes - especially the most educated - never regained any sense of moral obligation to serve, let alone the desire to see their children volunteer...

...The absence of the educated and wealthy elite from our military exacerbates the sense that something un-American and unfair is going on when "my kid" gets sent to war and "rich kids" do not. A country where fairly shared sacrifice is the norm might be less apt to breed groups like Speak Out...

...when 19 hijackers killed 3,000 Americans one bright morning...parents looked around, as if waking from a dream, and fervently hoped there were a few good men and women selfless and strong enough to shoulder an 80-pound pack and sling on an M-16 to defend the rest of us...

...We went to war in Afghanistan and Iraq. The military performed brilliantly. But the war was not over in 15 minutes. It wasn't cut to the pace of a TV commercial. Disney had not supplied a happy ending. Our elites did not like to see our military force used. Our war was fought on the ground, not with cruise missiles. Our attention wandered. Some military parents grew impatient. When where their children coming home? What the hell was this word "sacrifice" supposed to mean?...

...Like myself, most military parents honor the fact that our children took an oath to serve. Most of us are more patient than members of the chattering classes who write editorials about how our American policy is failing in the Middle East. Most of us know that even if it does fail, we must still try to transform the breeding grounds of hopelessness, terror and oppression into places where freedom and human rights are given a chance...

...I think most military parents feel as I do, though maybe the press doesn't quote us as often as it trumpets the fears of a few oversolicitous hand-wringing military "soccer moms" (and dads) wailing "Be careful!" as their sons and daughters try to defend us. I hope such parents come to understand that they are putting our children at risk by making us look weak and divided to terrorists who already dismiss us as soft.

Hmmmmmm. I guess its only the unpatriotic parents who dare to question why their children are being sent to kill and die.

26 posted on 03/06/2004 9:33:06 AM PST by sheltonmac ("Duty is ours; consequences are God's." -Gen. Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
LOL...I just sent you link to the same article :)
27 posted on 03/06/2004 9:33:13 AM PST by cyborg (In die begin het God die hemel en die aarde geskape.)
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To: sauropod; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
bump
28 posted on 03/06/2004 9:33:21 AM PST by Soaring Feather (~ I do Poetry and party among the stars~)
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To: sauropod; MoJo2001; armymarinemom
Thanks for the ping mojo! It is a great story. Thanks Pod for typing it out for us! I see you already pinged Armymarinemom.. I read her thread the other day.

God bless these parents for fighting for freedom!

29 posted on 03/06/2004 9:33:48 AM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (Every heart beats true for the red ,white and blue!)
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To: sauropod
Thanks for the posting. I hope many read this!
30 posted on 03/06/2004 9:33:54 AM PST by RAY (Right or wrong, it is my country!)
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To: sauropod
Some good points are made in this article.

I was drafted in 1967--in one of the last groups of "Whitehall Street" (NYC) draftees.

I was not happy about it, but I served my time and was Honorably discharged in 1971. I have met very, very few men of my age who have ever served a day in the US military.



31 posted on 03/06/2004 9:34:03 AM PST by jolie560
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To: MoJo2001
BTTT!!!!!!
32 posted on 03/06/2004 9:34:25 AM PST by E.G.C.
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To: PastorBubba
Gotta read this Buddy!
33 posted on 03/06/2004 9:35:44 AM PST by SnarlinCubBear (...all your .jpg's are belong to me.....)
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To: sauropod
Thanks. This is also relevant for the rally on the 13th.
34 posted on 03/06/2004 9:37:16 AM PST by kristinn (Blue Star Mothers' Troop Support Rally March 13 in Wash., D.C.)
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To: Lurker
Lurker, thanks for your service.
35 posted on 03/06/2004 9:38:39 AM PST by roj
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To: Lurker
The Marine Corps most likely saved my life.

One way to look at it. I now feel that, though drafted, the U.S.Army helped me become what I was doubtful about being. The self-confidence a hitch with Uncle Sam confers upon a young persons life is priceless.

36 posted on 03/06/2004 9:39:25 AM PST by elbucko
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To: sheltonmac
This makes me sick. I write this looking at the picture of my Grandfather in his unifrom who was drafted in WWI- a War he thought Bullcrap even then. My Great Uncle served as a Priest in WWII even at the age of 40 at Anzio- got the silver star when medals still meant something (unlike in Viet Nam where Kerry got his medals). My father served in the guard like Bush did only because his dad told him too as he thought war was a bullshit racket. And it is. To oppose this war is to be Patriotic! To support it is to be a sycophant of government and tyranny!
37 posted on 03/06/2004 9:42:06 AM PST by Burkeman1
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To: sauropod
Thanks for a great post!
38 posted on 03/06/2004 9:42:56 AM PST by international american (Tagline!!)
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To: cyclotic
One of my greatest regrets in life is not joining the military.

When I returned from recruit training in 1985, my girlfriend’s father and every other friend’s father who had never served said to me at one time or another, "You know I always thought about joining up." Every friend’s father who had served, whether for a year or two or an extending stint, slapped me on the back and looked at me differently.

I truly believe, the warrior spirit is imbedded in everyman's soul and is too often repressed. Not everyone can serve, but almost every man wishes he had.

Semper Fi, (18+ years and still having fun)

39 posted on 03/06/2004 9:45:16 AM PST by dpa5923 (Small minds talk about people, normal minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas.)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
BTTT
40 posted on 03/06/2004 9:45:28 AM PST by international american (Tagline!!)
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