Joe Bangert's Testimony Before The Winter Soldiers Investigation [Bangert Is Kerry's Vet Organizer]

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[Hon]

[For clarification let me state that Joe Bangert is a long time pal of John Kerry's and he has worked with him on many of his campaigns getting out the veteran vote. He is doing that again this year.

For more information on him and his behavior--which seems to have bordered on treason at times--please see this thread:

Kerry's Veteran Organizer Joe Bangert Sang For The Enemy http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1092856/posts

The following is a post from usenet which purports to be a reprint of Joe Bangert's "testimony" before the Vietnam Veterans Against The War's "Winter Soldier Investigation". This was a project funded by Jane Fonda and Mark Lane and organized in party by John Kerry. It was meant to demonstrate that US soldiers were war criminals who commonly committed atrocities like My Lai everyday in Vietnam:]

Soldier/WS_05_1Marine.html Joe Bangert, 22, Sgt. (E-5), VMO-6, PMAG-39, 1st Marine Air Wing, 1st Marine Division (October 1968 to October 1969)

BANGERT. My name is Joe Bangert. I'm a Philadelphia resident. I enlisted in the Marine Corps for four years in 1967. I went to Vietnam in 1968. My unit in Vietnam was Marine Observation Squadron Six with the First Marine Air Wing and my testimony will cover the slaughter of civilians, the skinning of a Vietnamese woman, the type of observing our squadron did in Vietnam and the crucifixion of Vietnamese either suspects or civilians in Vietnam.

MODERATOR. Mr. Bangert, there's an incident here where you found crucified bodies hanging on barbed wire fences and in the same incident you witnessed South Vietnamese civilians shot without provocation on Highway 1. Could you go into this and kind of see how they are related? BANGERT. I can cover a couple of these at the same time. The first day I got to Vietnam I landed in Da Nang Air Base. From Da Nang Air Base I took a plane to Dong Ha. I got off the plane and hitchhiked on Highway 1 to my unit. I was picked up by a truckload of grunt Marines with two company grade officers, 1st Lts.; we were about 5 miles down the road, where there were some Vietnamese children at the gateway of the village and they gave the old finger gesture at us. It was understandable that they picked this up from the GIs there. They stopped the trucks--they didn't stop the truck, they slowed down a little bit, and it was just like response, the guys got up, including the lieutenants, and just blew all the kids away. There were about five or six kids blown away and then the truck just continued down the hill. That was my first day in Vietnam. As far as the crucified bodies, they weren't actually crucified with nails, but they would find VCs or something (I never got the story on them) but, anyway, they were human beings, obviously dead, and they would take them and string them out on fences, on barbed wire fences, stripped, and sometimes they would take flesh wounds, take a knife and cut the body all over the place to make it bleed, and look gory as a reminder to the people in the village.

Also in Quang Tri City I had a friend who was working with USAID and he was also with CIA. We used to get drunk together and he used to tell me about his different trips into Laos on Air America Airlines and things. One time he asked me would I like to accompany him to watch. He was an adviser with an ARVN group and Kit Carson's. He asked me if I would like to accompany him into a village that I was familiar with to see how they act. So I went with him and when we got there the ARVNs had control of the situation. They didn't find any enemy but they found a woman with bandages. So she was questioned by six ARVNs and the way they questioned her, since she had bandages, they shot her. She was hit about twenty times. After she was questioned, and, of course, dead, this guy came over, who was a former major, been in the service for twenty years, and he got hungry again and came back over working with USAID, Aid International Development. He went over there, ripped her clothes off and took a knife and cut, from her vagina almost all the way up, just about up to her breasts and pulled her organs out, completely out of her cavity, and threw them out. Then, he stopped and knelt over and commenced to peel every bit of skin off her body and left her there as a sign for something or other and that was those instances.

MODERATOR. Okay, there were American officers present when this happened or...

BANGERT. There were two super-secret. I know they were field grade officers, who were with MACV in Quang Tri Province in the area. They knew about it.

MODERATOR. There are many different types of ways that we have heard of people being mutilated, of villagers being killed, but there is one way that affects the people afterwards. They don't physically shoot them or hurt them at the moment and this is the use of chemicals. And Mr. Bangert, I think, has a good example here where he shows twenty deformed babies resulting from Agent Orange Defoliant Spray. Could you tell us what Agent Orange is and the type of deformity that was the result?

BANGERT. I used to work with the pacification program in Vietnam and I traveled extensively through Quang Tri Province. Specifically in the area of Quang Tri City and west, Trieu Phong District, I saw approximately, during my tour, twenty deformed infants under the age of one. It never made sense to me, I thought it was congenital, or something, from venereal disease, because they had flippers and things. I didn't understand what I saw until approximately six months ago I read a report that was put out by Stamford which talked about the thalidomide content within Agent Orange and it was common knowledge that Agent Orange was sprayed in the area and we used to see it about every three to four days where I was in Quang Tri Province. If I could get back to the Vietnamese woman I saw that was mutilated so horribly by that person, it didn't really shock me because I think I talked about my first day in Vietnam.

You can check with the Marines who have been to Vietnam--your last day in the States at staging battalion at Camp Pendleton you have a little lesson and it's called the rabbit lesson, where the staff NCO comes out and he has a rabbit and he's talking to you about escape and evasion and survival in the jungle. He has this rabbit and then in a couple of seconds after just about everyone falls in love with it, not falls in love with it, but, you know, they're humane there, he cracks it in the neck, skins it, disembowels it, just like I testified that this happened to a woman--he does this to the rabbit--and then they throw the guts out into the audience. You can get anything out of that you want, but that's your last lesson you catch in the United States before you leave for Vietnam where they take that rabbit and they kill it, and they skin it, and they play with its organs as if it's trash and they throw the organs all over the place and then these guys are put on the plane the next day and sent to Vietnam.

[End excerpt. BTW, this last part about the rabbit is definitely from Bangert, as it is reproduced in John Kerry's secret book The New Soldier."]

[Tommie Paine]

This guy Bangert seems like a tiger. Be careful, especially if you are a city dweller.

[Tommie Paine]

I thought he sang Janis Joplin's 'Mercedes Benz'

Oh Lord won't cha buy me a Mercedes Benz
My friends all drive Porsches I must make amends
Worked hard all my lifetime no help from my friends
Oh Lord, Won't ya buy me a Mercedes Benz

How revolutionary!

[Tommie Paine]

I did a google search on both Marine Observation Squadron (VMO)6 and Vietnam and it turns up this squadron saw lots of combat action against the Communists in Vietnam (67-69) - and one of its pilots received the MOH- Stephen Pless so be very careful of your research for I hear this guy Bangert can make you eat your words and desk when one is confronted by him either in public or private.

[Travis McGee]

Bangert is a communist-loving (and promoting) sack of feces, always has been.

Naturally, he's a close ally of Kerry.

He's been caught in so many lies they can't be counted, but he just bulls ahead with more lies on top of his old lies. He can't back up ANY of his atrocity stories, from his "first day in VN" fable to his "going with super secret CIA guys" atrocity tales.

I could just as plausibly create fantasies from my time in the military, if I don't have to name names or dates or places.

He's a liar and a scumbag and a traitor. Period.

[river rat]

It was lying communist useful fool assholes like Kerry and Bangert, who were used by the "journalist assholes" to destroy the military effort and to rob honorable warriors of their victories, reputations and deserved honor..

A full generation of American warriors were painted as losing monsters by these pricks...

It is a miracle of American law and society, that these bastards weren't hunted down and shot like lying dogs.

Now is our chance commit the only legal murder of Kerry...
Throw his ass out of politics and make him live "quietly" with the monster bitch he married...

Semper Fi

[Travis McGee]

I agree. I just hope it's not even close, so they can't whine for years to come.