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White House threatened to fire actuary over projected price of Medicare plan
The Seattle Times ^ | March 12, 2004 | Tony Pugh

Posted on 03/12/2004 7:46:55 AM PST by eeman

WASHINGTON — The government's top expert on Medicare costs was warned that he would be fired if he told key lawmakers about a series of Bush administration cost estimates that could have torpedoed congressional passage of the White House-backed Medicare prescription-drug plan.

When the House passed the controversial benefit by five votes in November, the White House was embracing an estimate by the Congressional Budget Office that it would cost $395 billion in the first 10 years. But the administration's analysts in the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services had concluded months earlier that the drug benefit could cost upward of $100 billion more than that.

Withholding the higher cost projections was important because the White House was facing a revolt from 13 conservative House Republicans who had vowed to vote against the Medicare drug bill if it cost more than $400 billion.

Rep. Sue Myrick of North Carolina, one of the 13 Republicans, said she was "very upset" when she learned of the higher estimate.

"I think a lot of people probably would have reconsidered (voting for the bill), because we said that $400 billion was our top of the line," Myrick said.

Five months before the November vote in the House, the government's chief Medicare actuary had estimated that a similar plan the Senate was considering would cost $551 billion over 10 years. White House Budget Director Joshua Bolten disclosed two months after Congress approved the new benefit that he expected it to cost $534 billion.

Higher estimate

Richard Foster, the chief actuary for the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, which produced the $551 billion estimate, told colleagues in June that he would be fired if he revealed the higher estimate to lawmakers.

"This whole episode which has now gone on for three weeks has been pretty nightmarish," Foster wrote in an e-mail to some of his colleagues June 26, just before the first congressional vote on the drug bill. "I'm perhaps no longer in grave danger of being fired, but there remains a strong likelihood that I will have to resign in protest of the withholding of important technical information from key policy makers for political reasons."

Knight Ridder obtained a copy of the e-mail.

Foster didn't quit, but congressional staffers and lawmakers who worked on the bill said he no longer was permitted to answer important questions about the bill's cost.

Cybele Bjorklund, the Democratic staff director for the House Ways and Means health subcommittee, which worked on the drug benefit, said Thomas Scully — then director of the Medicare office — told her he ordered Foster to withhold information and that Foster would be fired for insubordination if he disobeyed.

Health and Human Services Department officials turned down repeated requests to interview Foster. The Medicare office falls under the control of HHS.

Denial

In an interview with Knight Ridder, Scully, a former health-industry lobbyist deeply involved in the administration's campaign to pass the drug benefit, denied Bjorklund's assertion that he had threatened to fire Foster. He said he curbed Foster on one specific request, made by Democrats on the eve of the first House vote in June, because he thought they would use the cost estimates to disrupt the debate.

"They were trying to be politically cute and get (Foster) to score (estimate the cost of the bill) and put something out publicly so they can walk out on the House floor and cause a political crisis, which is bogus," Scully said.

"I just said, 'Look, (Foster) works for the executive branch; he's not going to do it, period,' " he said.

Otherwise, Scully said, Foster was available to lawmakers and their staffs.

"... I don't think he ever felt — I don't think anybody (in the actuary's office) ever felt — that I restricted access. ... I think it's a very nice tradition that (the actuary) is perceived to be very nonpartisan and very accessible, and I continued that tradition."

Scully said Liz Fowler, the chief health lawyer for the Democrats on the Senate Finance Committee, could confirm the actuary's independence. Fowler didn't.

"He's a liar," she said of Scully.

At a Ways and Means Committee hearing last month, HHS Secretary Tommy Thompson all but repudiated Scully's tactics.

"I may have been derelict in allowing my administrator, Tom Scully, to have more control over it than I should have. ... And maybe he micromanaged the actuary and the actuary services too much. ... I can assure you that from now (on), the remaining days that I am secretary you will have as much access as you want to anybody or anything in the department. All you have to do is call me."

Democrats asked Thompson on Feb. 3 and March 3 for a complete record of Foster's estimates. They have yet to receive it.

Said HHS spokesman Bill Pierce: "We respond to all inquiries in time, and we will do the same" with these.

Scully left the administration and in January took a job with Alston & Bird, an Atlanta-based law firm that represents numerous hospitals and health insurers. He was exploring jobs in the private sector while he was pushing for passage of the prescription-drug bill, thanks to a waiver from Thompson that allowed him to conduct job interviews while he was still a federal employee.

The White House announced in February that President Bush's appointees no longer would be permitted to job-hunt while on the federal payroll.

Members of Congress and congressional staffers complained that Scully's handling of Foster has deepened congressional mistrust of the Bush administration and that withholding information makes it more difficult for Congress to draft good legislation.

Myrick didn't think the episode was an effort to "pull the wool over our eyes."

But Democratic Rep. Pete Stark of California thinks otherwise. "This 'need to know, our eyes only' stuff is getting too restrictive for us to do a decent job," said Stark, the ranking Democrat on the House Ways and Means health subcommittee.

For years before Scully's arrival in 2001, key lawmakers had direct access to Medicare actuaries.

In 1997, when Republicans were having trouble obtaining health-care cost information from the Clinton administration, Rep. Bill Thomas, R-Calif., now the chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee, added language to the Balanced Budget Act conference report to emphasize the importance of free access to Foster.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: armtwisting; cbo; denial; election2004; medicare; politics; presidentbush; richardfoster
It is this type of chicanery by the Bush administration which may cost him the election. It will not be the campaign ads subtly referencing September 11, despite the protestations by Katie Couric and the other usual suspects.

Reading this makes me angry at the Bush administration. Unlike what I said to myself a couple of months ago, however, I still planned to vote for Bush. All of this homosexual marriage garbage makes me realize what is at stake-- even if we are stuck voting for a "compassionate conservative."

1 posted on 03/12/2004 7:46:57 AM PST by eeman
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To: eeman
I am sure this guy is just a Democratic political hack trying to get his name known and harm our President.

Just thought I would throw that out there before the Bushbots show up.
2 posted on 03/12/2004 7:56:47 AM PST by OneTimeLurker
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To: eeman
Scully left the administration and in January took a job with Alston & Bird, an Atlanta-based law firm that represents numerous hospitals and health insurers. He was exploring jobs in the private sector while he was pushing for passage of the prescription-drug bill, thanks to a waiver from Thompson that allowed him to conduct job interviews while he was still a federal employee.

Charming.
3 posted on 03/12/2004 8:10:12 AM PST by lelio
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To: eeman
He is an employee of a Cabinent Department- is he a political employee? If so he serves at the pleasure of the President. Displease the President, lose your job. That's life in DC boys and girls.

4 posted on 03/12/2004 8:11:49 AM PST by brothers4thID
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To: eeman
The headline is false; the "White House" was not involved in this - it was a mid-level agency guy. Stories like this can be multiplied endlessy - for any administration or any bureaucracy - but the press only seeks them out as "gotcha's" against Republicans. Anyone who has worked in a bureacracy - as I do - knows that the administration always wants to control the flow of information to outside interests such as the press or even other departments within the organization. If this is sinister, then virtually all bureaucracies are sinister.
5 posted on 03/12/2004 8:12:30 AM PST by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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To: eeman
For years before Scully's arrival in 2001, key lawmakers had direct access to Medicare actuaries.

In 1997, when Republicans were having trouble obtaining health-care cost information from the Clinton administration, Rep. Bill Thomas, R-Calif., now the chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee, added language to the Balanced Budget Act conference report to emphasize the importance of free access to Foster.

When I read crap like this, it's hard to get worked up over the underlying issue. Can anyone write an honest objective news item anymore?

6 posted on 03/12/2004 8:14:41 AM PST by Mr. Bird
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To: Mr. Bird
"When I read crap like this . . . "

As I was trying to point out in an earlier post, stories like this could be multiplied endlessly at all levels of government and in any large corporation. What is described in here is the ordinary push-and-shove of bureaucracies and hierarchies, where people at the top and in the mid-manage,ment levels want to control the flow of information to spin things a certain way. These things only become "news" when the press wants to make someone look bad, as they do with Bush. And as I said, the headline is false - the "White House" (Bush and his close advisors) was not involved in this. A fly on the wall would see things in major newsrooms, e.g., The Seattle Times, that would look as bad or worse than what's described here.
7 posted on 03/12/2004 8:21:45 AM PST by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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To: Steve_Seattle
Exactly. I do believe the story has news value; it appears that disclosure of the scoring would have definitely hindered passage of the bill. But the suggestion that such activity is exceptional is entirely dishonest, as the writer concedes that the Clinton administration did the same thing.

There's enough objective fact to support the story; the only reason to strike a pose with the information is to score political points.

8 posted on 03/12/2004 8:27:54 AM PST by Mr. Bird
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To: eeman
You know, most of the people attacking this bill are the true conservatives. I think this is the administration's attempt at being "compassionate conservative." From what I see, the bill is working great for the seniors, but it's just another form of democratic socialism. Just where the GOP is headed.
9 posted on 03/12/2004 8:48:10 AM PST by anonymous86
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To: anonymous86
Agree, but the seniors don't think it goes far enough. The GOP better learn that they cannot outspend the democrats. They are not going to be able to peel away the the democrat base by being able to promise them more freebies that the Rats can
10 posted on 03/12/2004 9:26:11 AM PST by eeman
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To: JohnGalt; ninenot; u-89; sittnick; steve50; Hegemony Cricket; Willie Green; Wolfie; ex-snook; ...
The government's top expert on Medicare costs was warned that he would be fired if he told key lawmakers about a series of Bush administration cost estimates that could have torpedoed congressional passage of the White House-backed Medicare prescription-drug plan.

FYI

11 posted on 03/13/2004 5:08:35 AM PST by A. Pole (<SARCASM> The genocide of Albanians was stopped in its tracks before it began.</S>)
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To: brothers4thID
If so he serves at the pleasure of the President. Displease the President, lose your job.

Have you heard about whistleblower laws?

12 posted on 03/13/2004 5:09:55 AM PST by A. Pole (<SARCASM> The genocide of Albanians was stopped in its tracks before it began.</S>)
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To: A. Pole
Relax. All is well. The adults are in charge.
13 posted on 03/13/2004 5:33:29 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: brothers4thID
Providing an opinion or the truth is no reason to get fired. Especially considering this waste of government tax dollars is going to cost far more than even the $551 billion during the first ten years.

Oh, but it may have picked up a vote or two so that makes it all worthwhile < /sarcasm>

14 posted on 03/13/2004 6:17:16 AM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice.)
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To: eeman
Bush administration ordered Medicare plan cost estimates withheld

By Tony Pugh
Knight Ridder Newspapers

WASHINGTON — The government's top expert on Medicare costs was warned that he would be fired if he told key lawmakers about a series of Bush administration cost estimates that could have torpedoed congressional passage of the White House-backed Medicare prescription-drug plan.

When the House of Representatives passed the controversial benefit by five votes last November, the White House was embracing an estimate by the Congressional Budget Office that it would cost $395 billion in the first 10 years. But for months the administration's own analysts in the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services had concluded repeatedly that the drug benefit could cost upward of $100 billion more than that.

Withholding the higher cost projections was important because the White House was facing a revolt from 13 conservative House Republicans who'd vowed to vote against the Medicare drug bill if it cost more than $400 billion.


Rep. Sue Myrick of North Carolina, one of the 13 Republicans, said she was "very upset" when she learned of the higher estimate.

"I think a lot of people probably would have reconsidered (voting for the bill) because we said that $400 billion was our top of the line," Myrick said.

Five months before the November House vote, the government's chief Medicare actuary had estimated that a similar plan the Senate was considering would cost $551 billion over 10 years. Two months after Congress approved the new benefit, White House Budget Director Joshua Bolten disclosed that he expected it to cost $534 billion.

Richard S. Foster, the chief actuary for the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, which produced the $551 billion estimate, told colleagues last June that he would be fired if he revealed numbers relating to the higher estimate to lawmakers.

"This whole episode which has now gone on for three weeks has been pretty nightmarish," Foster wrote in an e-mail to some of his colleagues June 26, just before the first congressional vote on the drug bill. "I'm perhaps no longer in grave danger of being fired, but there remains a strong likelihood that I will have to resign in protest of the withholding of important technical information from key policy makers for political reasons."

Knight Ridder obtained a copy of the e-mail.

Foster didn't quit, but congressional staffers and lawmakers who worked on the bill said he no longer was permitted to answer important questions about the bill's cost.

Cybele Bjorklund, the Democratic staff director for the House Ways and Means health subcommittee, which worked on the drug benefit, said Thomas A. Scully — then the director of the Medicare office — told her he ordered Foster to withhold information and that Foster would be fired for insubordination if he disobeyed.

Health and Human Services Department officials turned down repeated requests to interview Foster. The Medicare office falls under the control of HHS.

In an interview with Knight Ridder, Scully, a former health-industry lobbyist deeply involved in the administration's campaign to pass the drug benefit, denied Bjorklund's assertion that he'd threatened to fire Foster. He said he curbed Foster on only one specific request, made by Democrats on the eve of the first House vote in June, because he felt they'd use the cost estimates to disrupt the debate.

"They were trying to be politically cute and get (Foster) to score (estimate the cost of the bill) and put something out publicly so they can walk out on the House floor and cause a political crisis, which is bogus," Scully said.

"I just said, ‘Look, (Foster) works for the executive branch; he's not going to do it, period,' " he said.

Otherwise, Scully said, Foster was available to lawmakers and their staffs.

" … I don't think he ever felt — I don't think anybody (in the actuary's office) ever felt — that I restricted access. … I think it's a very nice tradition that (the actuary) is perceived to be very nonpartisan and very accessible, and I continued that tradition."

Scully said Liz Fowler, the chief health lawyer for the Democrats on the Senate Finance Committee, could confirm the actuary's independence. Fowler didn't.

"He's a liar," she said of Scully.

At a Ways and Means Committee hearing last month, HHS Secretary Tommy Thompson all but repudiated Scully's tactics.

"I may have been derelict in allowing my administrator, Tom Scully, to have more control over it than I should have. … And maybe he micromanaged the actuary and the actuary services too much. … I can assure you that from now (on), the remaining days that I am secretary you will have as much access as you want to anybody or anything in the department. All you have to do is call me."

Democrats asked Thompson on Feb. 3 and March 3 for a complete record of Foster's estimates. They've yet to get it.

Said HHS spokesman Bill Pierce: "We respond to all inquiries in time and we will do the same" with these.

Scully left the administration and in January took a job with Alston & Bird, an Atlanta-based law firm that represents numerous hospitals and health insurers. He was exploring jobs in the private sector while he was pushing for passage of the prescription drug bill, thanks to a waiver from Thompson that allowed him to conduct job interviews while he was still a federal employee.

In February, the White House announced that President Bush's appointees no longer would be permitted to job-hunt while on the federal payroll.

Members of Congress and congressional staffers complained that Scully's handling of Foster has deepened congressional mistrust of the Bush administration and that withholding information makes it harder for Congress to draft good legislation.

Myrick didn't think the episode was an effort to "pull the wool over our eyes."

But Democratic Rep. Pete Stark of California felt otherwise. "This ‘need to know, our eyes only' stuff is getting too restrictive for us to do a decent job," said Stark, the ranking Democrat on the House Ways and Means health subcommittee.

For years before Scully's arrival in 2001, key lawmakers had direct access to Medicare actuaries.

In 1997, when Republicans were having trouble getting health-care cost information out of the Clinton administration, Rep. Bill Thomas, R-Calif., who's now the chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee, added language to the Balanced Budget Act conference report to emphasize the importance of free access to Foster.

"The process of monitoring, updating and reforming the Medicare and Medicaid programs is greatly enhanced by the free flow of actuarial information from the Office of the Actuary to the committees of jurisdiction in the Congress," the report says.

"When information is delayed or circumscribed by the operation of an internal Administration clearance process or the inadequacy of actuarial resources, the Committees' ability to make informed decisions based on the best available information is compromised."

15 posted on 03/13/2004 7:19:46 AM PST by baltimoreman
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To: eeman

ROTFLMAO!! Ah Dubya, you taking lessons from Bubba and his "missing" e-mails job?

"The Justice Department has launched a criminal investigation into why thousands of White House e-mails were not produced even though they had been subpoenaed by federal investigators. Although the contents aren't known, the e-mail potentially relates to a number of scandals, including alleged campaign finance abuses and the Monica Lewinsky affair. Some e-mails may involve Vice President Gore's office.

The investigation centers on whether White House officials intentionally slowed efforts to recover the missing e-mail, and whether Clinton administration officials threatened computer contractors to keep them from divulging the existence of the electronic correspondence. Some of the contractors repeated those allegations at a heated congressional hearing Thursday.

BETTY LAMBUTH, MGR., NORTHROP GRUMMAN: They basically threatened us that my staff would be fired.

http://www-cgi.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0003/23/ip.00.html

Hmm..I thought Dubya's favorite philosopher was Christ. Wonder what Jesus' views are on theft, threats and lying?


16 posted on 03/13/2004 7:30:53 AM PST by KantianBurke (Arguments that got Arnold elected in 02, will get a "moderate" RINO elected to the White House in 08)
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To: Steve_Seattle
Anyone who has worked in a bureacracy - as I do - knows that the administration always wants to control the flow of information to outside interests such as the press or even other departments within the organization. If this is sinister, then virtually all bureaucracies are sinister.

They wanted to restrict it for a specific sinister reason-- that GOP lawmakers would oppose the drug bill for granny if they knew how much it would really cost. This is pathetic. I don't pay taxes so that HHS can withhold important information from my representatives in DC.

17 posted on 03/13/2004 7:32:19 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: Mr. Bird
It's hard to get worked up over the fact that the Bush WH is being run the same way as the Clinton WH on this issue? I can get worked up pretty easily over the fact that HHS was using these actuaries for political purposes and was deliberately hiding information for those purposes. They all do it isn't an excuse I'd accept from my kids. We shouldn't accept it from this administration.
18 posted on 03/13/2004 7:35:42 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: A. Pole
I never understood why people place such trust in public officials and that goes for supporters of both parties. The name of the game is power and it's played by doing whatever it takes to obtain power and to do whatever it takes to maintain it once gotten. Politics is not a game for honest Christian gentlemen. Why do some folks like to tell themselves otherwise? You need to be 3 things to be a successful pol - a fake, a phony and a fraud. The most cynical and duplicitous man wins.
19 posted on 03/13/2004 8:20:34 AM PST by u-89
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