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Military Drops All Charges Against Muslim Chaplain
AP
| 3/19/04
| AP
Posted on 03/19/2004 4:11:13 PM PST by technomage
AP News Alert
03/19 6:07p CST MIAMI (AP)
U.S. military drops all charges of alleged mishandling of classified information against Muslim Army chaplain at Guantanamo Bay.
TOPICS: Breaking News
KEYWORDS: jamesyee; muslimchaplains; yee
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To: technomage
Never mind.
To: tubavil
I hope to Ghod you're right. And I hope we make him pay, too, more than a stinking Article 15!!
To: technomage
Didn't this guy convert to Islam when he was at West Point?
I can almost understand the charges of adultery and the "looking up porno on government computers" thing. Hey, it happens. But voluntarily converting to Islam is really, really unbecoming an officer. Or a rational American, for that matter.
I hate to sound extreme, but this is like a West Pointer "converting" to Nazi.
To: endowedbycreator
Yeechap-lain: 1. A clergyman in charge of a chapel.
- Merriam Webster online dictionary
But, Muslims don't have "chapels"!!!
So how the heck can a Muslim be a chaplain?
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posted on
03/20/2004 2:40:11 AM PST
by
ppaul
To: xzins
They drop those charges and he is charged with adultery and released from the military without benefits.Nope.
This guy gets off easy - and, he gets full retirement benefits to boot.
American taxpayers and legitimate soldiers get shafted again.
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posted on
03/20/2004 2:43:48 AM PST
by
ppaul
To: ppaul
Miller said Yee will be offered nonjudicial punishment for allegations of adultery and pornography.
This is from the AP.
I'm a retired chaplain. If this is true then Yee can either accept the non-judicial punishment OR go to a court-martial trial on those charges.
They have an admission from the woman he committed adultery with, so it is a slam dunk.
Therefore, he will accept the non-judicial punishment. Once he does, his career is over. He is about a 6-9 year captain who is coming up for major. He will NOT make it through the major's board. Therefore, he will be out on the street.
Prior to that, he could be ADMINISTRATIVELY dropped from the military for being a detriment to morale -- an officer with such charges on his file -- with a gen/honorable or a general discharge (or less.)
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posted on
03/20/2004 5:29:04 AM PST
by
xzins
(Retired Army and Proud of It!)
To: ppaul; aristeides
Miller said Yee will be offered nonjudicial punishment for allegations of adultery and pornography.
This is from the AP. (ARI -- what do you see about the following, given the above italicized fact from the AP being true?)
I'm a retired chaplain. If this is true then Yee can either accept the non-judicial punishment OR go to a court-martial trial on those charges.
They have an admission from the woman he committed adultery with, so it is a slam dunk. They have his computer...slam dunk.
Therefore, he will accept the non-judicial punishment. Once he does, his career is over. He is about a 6-9 year captain who is coming up for major. He will NOT make it through the major's board. Therefore, he will be out on the street.
Prior to that, he could be ADMINISTRATIVELY dropped from the military for being a detriment to morale -- an officer with such charges on his file -- with a gen/honorable or a general discharge (or less.)
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posted on
03/20/2004 5:30:49 AM PST
by
xzins
(Retired Army and Proud of It!)
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Several thousand troops stationed in Saudi after Desert Storm reportedly "converted" to Mohameddanism while waiting to go home after the war. There was a "cultural center" of sorts set up by the Saudis and bored Americans would go there and the damage was done. Remember we couldn't have an Christian chaplains there at the time (correct me if I'm wrong on that)
That's where this POS got converted.
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posted on
03/20/2004 8:33:54 AM PST
by
eleni121
(Preempt and Prevent---then Destroy)
To: eleni121
Don't forget that Timothy McVeigh was among them (it's never been proven that he converted, but he was certainly radicalized there).
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posted on
03/20/2004 5:54:25 PM PST
by
livius
To: ppaul
He gets off easy for what? Supposedly having porn and having an affair? My read is that many of the people on FR are more upset that he's Muslim than for anything he actually did.
The claim that they can't try him because it will jeapordize national security doesn't hold up - the attorneys and judge are already cleared to view classified documents. Face it, the government majorly screwed up this case.
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posted on
03/20/2004 6:28:47 PM PST
by
stevem99
To: Moose4
Note that government figured out in the middle of the case that they didn't even know which, if any, of the documents were actually classified.
Given that level of incompetence, I think it's a safe bet that they're covering their ass.
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posted on
03/20/2004 6:31:35 PM PST
by
stevem99
From #12:
".......Citing national security concerns, the Army on Friday dropped all charges......"
What the.........?
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posted on
03/20/2004 6:39:49 PM PST
by
DoctorMichael
(The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
To: ppaul
"chap-lain: 1. A clergyman in charge of a chapel.
- Merriam Webster online dictionary
But, Muslims don't have "chapels"!!!
So how the heck can a Muslim be a chaplain?"
Yes but the far more respected OED defines it thus:
cha'plain (-lin) n. Clergyman on institution, private chapel, ship, regiment, etc.; ~cy; n. [F f. L (CHAPEL)]
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posted on
03/21/2004 10:57:40 AM PST
by
CyberCowboy777
(We should never ever apologize for who we are, what we believe in, and what we stand for.)
To: Moose4
I agree, but I am hoping it is (a). Not that dropping the charges is going to do any good if he was innocent.
He will be out soon, and if he was innocent, he is sure to raise a hellified stink.
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posted on
03/21/2004 1:38:07 PM PST
by
Ronin
(When the fox gnaws, smile!!)
To: knarf
A radio report on Friday said the feds were dropping the most serious charges because the defense would have insisted on revealing sensitive material. Now it looks as if he'll get away scotfree. Not good, guys.
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posted on
03/21/2004 5:24:32 PM PST
by
hershey
To: technomage
Yee was caught red-handed with documents he wasn't suppose to have and the military let this islamic go free. Unbelievable!
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posted on
03/21/2004 6:38:04 PM PST
by
lilylangtree
(Veni, Vidi, Vici)
To: eleni121
I would really like to read more about this. Do you have any links or resources? I have personally met a handful of Desert Storm Vets who came home very confused about their religion, or identifying themselves as religious for the first time ever and "converting" to Islam of other cult religions, as well as trouble with their feelings toward America.
I wonder what happened to these guys?
BTW- Anyone looking to flame me, I am not saying all Desert Storm Vets returned this way, but I have meet a few and read about groups of them.
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posted on
03/22/2004 5:51:12 AM PST
by
Diva Betsy Ross
(Every heart beats true for the red ,white and blue!)
To: Diva Betsy Ross
I am curious about these "conversions" as well. For now here is an article which has just been posted at the Intelwire website. I will do a search on this and keep you informed. I am sure others here also have info on this phenomenon.
http://www.intelwire.com/hamptonel010604.html
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posted on
03/22/2004 7:50:46 AM PST
by
eleni121
(Preempt and Prevent---then Destroy)
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