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Al-Qaeda Gunmen Fail to Answer Pakistani Negotiators (So long, farewell, Auf wiedersehn, good night)
Bloomberg ^ | 3.24.04

Posted on 03/23/2004 5:41:51 PM PST by ambrose

Edited on 07/19/2004 2:13:39 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

March 24 (Bloomberg) -- Suspected al-Qaeda fighters under siege in northwestern Pakistan failed to respond to tribal negotiators seeking their surrender, Agence France-Presse reported, citing a Pakistani military spokesman.

A group a tribal elders delivered the surrender demand on Monday to about 500 fighters holding out in the South Waziristan region on the border with Pakistan, Major General Shaukat Sultan, said, according to AFP. The fighters said they would ``discuss with their leaders and then respond,'' Sultan said yesterday. ``Their response is awaited,'' he said.


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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; alqaeda; alzawahiri; enemy; killed; manhunt; pakistan; surrender; waziristan

1 posted on 03/23/2004 5:41:52 PM PST by ambrose
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There's a sad sort of clanging
From the clock in the hall
And the bells in the steeple too,
And up in the nurs'ry an absurd little bird
Is popping out to say "coocoo".

Regretfully they tell us,
But firmly they compel us
To say goodby to you.

So long, farewell, Auf wiedersehn, good night,
I hate to go and leave this pretty sight.
So long, farewell, Auf wiedersehn, adieu,
Adieu, adieu, to yieu and yieu and yieu.

So long, farewell, Au'voir, auf wiedersehn,
I'd like to stay and taste my first champagne
So long, farewell, Auf wiedersehn, goodbye,
I leave and heave a sigh and say goodbye,
Good bye

I'm glad to go,
I cannot tell a lie.
I flit, I float,
I fleetly flee, I fly.

The sun has gone to bed and so must I
So long, farewell, auf wiedersehn, goodbye,
Goodbye,
Goodbye,
Goodbye!
2 posted on 03/23/2004 5:42:59 PM PST by ambrose ("I actually did vote for the $87 billion before I voted against it" - John F. al-Query)
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To: ambrose
Hello, I must be going.
I came to say,I cannot stay,I must be going.

The Terrs are gonna need some calomel after this.
3 posted on 03/23/2004 5:46:51 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: ambrose
Al-Qaeda Gunmen have won, their big wig has made good his escape. The gunmen will surrender and be sent home to their various countries of origin.
4 posted on 03/23/2004 5:54:53 PM PST by Mike Darancette (General - Alien Army of the Right (AAOTR))
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To: ambrose
Suspected al-Qaeda fighters under siege in northwestern Pakistan failed to respond...

Failed to respond? Yeah, because they all took off in the tunnels while the Pakis "waited" to hear back. What a farce. I hope we have learned from our lesson (again) and the next time a MOAB will drop on them while they are scurrying thru their tunnels like rats.

5 posted on 03/23/2004 5:58:31 PM PST by Azzurri
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To: ambrose
The Pakistani military said more than 40 soldiers are dead and others are missing since it began the military operation near the town of Wana last week.

I think all of that could have been avoided if they just let us have the daisy cutters perform a few fly-bys....

6 posted on 03/23/2004 6:49:38 PM PST by Jalapeno
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To: ambrose; Dog; Cap Huff; Coop; swarthyguy; Boot Hill
ping!
9 posted on 03/23/2004 9:30:22 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: Azzurri
my thoughts exactly- but it will be spun to sound like a victory
10 posted on 03/23/2004 10:41:57 PM PST by vp_cal
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To: Mike Darancette
Al-Qaeda Gunmen have won, their big wig has made good his escape. The gunmen will surrender and be sent home to their various countries of origin.

Perhaps I should start a manure meter of how many ridiculous posts like yours we see over the next few days. You have no idea if a high-value target was ever there, you have no idea if said HVT is still there, and you apparently have no idea how many terrorists have already been captured or killed in this operation or how much their infrastructure has been disrupted and compromised.

I'll take Al Qaeda "wins" like this every day of the week, thank you very much.

11 posted on 03/24/2004 3:48:27 AM PST by Coop ("Hero" is the last four-letter word I'd use to describe John Kerry)
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To: vp_cal
I'm sure you meant to say this victory will be spun to sound like a defeat.
12 posted on 03/24/2004 3:49:18 AM PST by Coop ("Hero" is the last four-letter word I'd use to describe John Kerry)
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To: Coop
I'll take Al Qaeda "wins" like this every day of the week, thank you very much.

This same scenario was repeated many times over during the Afghan stage of the war against the Taliban. Bad guys surrounded, cease fire and talks then bad guys gone. Muslims do not like to capture other Muslims.

As to whether a HVT was ever or is present what does it matter? We do not have him.

13 posted on 03/24/2004 4:06:39 AM PST by Mike Darancette (General - Alien Army of the Right (AAOTR))
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To: Mike Darancette
What we do have is yet another terrorist encampment disrupted and hopefully destroyed.

What we do have is a strong message to the terrorists and their enablers.

We do have captured weapons and important sources of intelligence.

We do have many foreign terrorists captured or killed, including six bodies taken for DNA analysis for unknown reasons. Five of those bodies were shown to the press - all males estimated to be 25-35 years of age (al-Zawahiri is 52, IIRC). The sixth body was not shown - officials said it was too decomposed for viewing. So they either dug up a body - not likely unless they felt it was a VIP, or there's another reason they don't want anyone to see this body.

14 posted on 03/24/2004 4:24:51 AM PST by Coop ("Hero" is the last four-letter word I'd use to describe John Kerry)
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To: Coop
no it really is a non-victory for us.

They trapped the one of the top 4 al queda (according to
musharref) and could easily have captured him.

But instead the Pakistanis tried to negotiate, and
this gave them a chance to escape through the tunnels.

next time, just drop a MOAB on them- no need to talk.





15 posted on 03/24/2004 9:09:25 AM PST by vp_cal
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; ambrose
All HVT's targets have escaped.

The Paki military has shed blood in its fight against the jihadis, ironically, some of whom may even have trained in camps run by the Pakistani Army in Kashmir.

The tribes have been alienated and are PO'ed.

Somebody made sure this operation failed.

Mush has egg on his face; the army's prestige is damaged.

Looks like the jihadis won another round.
16 posted on 03/24/2004 10:09:38 AM PST by swarthyguy
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To: vp_cal
They trapped the one of the top 4 al queda (according to musharref) and could easily have captured him.

You have absolutely no idea whether or not there was a high-value target in the compound or whether that target, if there, was al-Zawahiri... or even a member of Al Qaeda.

You really should read more and post less.

17 posted on 03/25/2004 4:44:03 AM PST by Coop ("Hero" is the last four-letter word this veteran would use to describe John Kerry)
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