[Tenx]

I read Mike Pelletier's post and am not surprised he got "tossed" by the cops for carrying a handgun openly in the 21st Century. I am a retired federal agent and carry CCW now and always carry concealed. It may have been "a warm evening", but CCW people must realize they have NO absolute rights to carry openly and offend non-gun-owners who are also voters. Occasionally I see new CCW folks carry openly and I tell them to "cover it" or put it in the car trunk. Some CCW folks flaunt CCW and do us all a grave disservice. Further, if there were any bad guys in that bookstore, Mike marked himself for being the first shot because he carried indiscreetly.

Tenx

[Copernicus]

but CCW people must realize they have NO absolute rights to carry openly and offend non-gun-owners who are also voters. Occasionally I see new CCW folks carry openly and I tell them to "cover it" or put it in the car trunk.

Respectfully disagree. Many people in many states elect not to jump through Goobermint Ordered Flaming Hoops that are in themselves UnConstitutional by definition. They rely on "open carry" as the legal right of transport and self defense.

There is no standard by which simple carry is inherently offensive any more than there are prohibitions against any number of other behaviours which would offend some portion of the population.

At one time the only reasonable form of carry an honest citizen would expect to encounter would be open carry.

Concealed carry was the mark of dishonorable and untrustworthy people.

That Goobermint has managed to invert this concept is yet another blight and stain on this generation.

Best regards,

[W Clark]

Your a retired Federal Agent?, Is that supposed to strike fear in our hearts?, is that supposed to make you some kind of "expert" on CCW?, Open or Concealed?. I live in Utah. We open carry here. Why? because some of us WANT to and there is not a Damm thing you or the "voting"?? public has done about it. When it is 105 degrees out I am known to open carry everywhere. I have done so all over Utah since 1995. I have not ONCE offended someone to the point they called the Police on me. Talking about Absolute Rights, when did they pass a law against being Offended? EXPOSURE INCREASES TOLERANCE.
Yes, I conceal 99% of the time but not because I don't want to offend because it is tactically better. You sound as though if it offends we can't or shouldn't do it. I recall after 911 the Police cars started showing up with American Flag stickers on them. Someone complained and said they were offended and a captain of a SLPD division ordered them to be removed. So you agree with that? The day when we all are "not Surprised" when Police toss us for doing nothing wrong is the day Liberty breathes it last breath. When Justice is only for the Strong and the Connected. Tenx, by your opening statement, you are already there. Too Bad.

[thompson]

Tenx said, "but CCW people must realize they have NO absolute rights to carry openly"

Huh? - Did you miss this part in your 'Federal Agent' training?
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are..." "...the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed."

Tenx also said,"Mike marked himself for being the first shot because he carried indiscreetly."

I'll give you that point, but then why do police officers open carry if it just makes them a target? Perhaps the knowledge that there are people carrying firearms to defend themselves (and others) is a visible deterrent to criminals?

[TigersEye]

Occasionally I see new CCW folks carry openly and I tell them to "cover it" or put it in the car trunk.

Don't ever approach me with that kind of bs. What I would tell you isn't fit to post on a public forum.