To: Heartlander
What gives? The creationists finally got what they wanted - religion in the schools. Welcome to the brave new world that you were supposed to be in favor of - enjoy the ride, and please keep your hands and feet inside the car at all times.
3 posted on
04/01/2004 11:27:33 AM PST by
general_re
(The doors to Heaven and Hell are adjacent and identical... - Nikos Kazantzakis)
To: PatrickHenry; longshadow; BMCDA; Junior; balrog666; js1138; <1/1,000,000th%; VadeRetro
"It's the wrong sort of religion!"
5 posted on
04/01/2004 11:29:37 AM PST by
general_re
(The doors to Heaven and Hell are adjacent and identical... - Nikos Kazantzakis)
To: general_re
The National Center for Science Education is a small store front in Berkley California with about nine employees.
They are against "creationism" is the school and are promoting theology that goes along with their lies about
evolution. Certainly, we have had microevolution which means animals can evolve within their own kind to be smaller, larger, etc. You can do this with breeding different animals and in a few short years you will come
up with something that looks quite different, but it is
still a dog, cat or whatever KIND of animal you started with. We did not evolve from nothing which is what the
textbooks say happened. The textbooks are full of lies
taught to school children every day as fact. It is a total
disgrace. To teach that we evolved from nothing 4.5 billion years ago is nothing but "religion", paid for by the tax payers.
6 posted on
04/01/2004 11:37:24 AM PST by
Cowgirl
To: general_re
The National Center for Science Education (NCSE) is on the front lines of the battle to keep religion out of the nation's science classrooms. I stopped when I hit this little fabrication.
To: general_re; All
Is everyone happy that the NCSE is mixing religion with science and using our tax dollars? Is this OK because it is
your religion?
Gravity Constant = 6.6739 10-11m3kg-1s-2
Neo-darwin Constant = humans arose from happenstance void of intelligence and design?
Neo-darwinism is essentially garbage all the way down with many
turtles as just part of the equation. Its kinda funny isnt it? Garbage all the way down and here we stand on all of it
Garbage all the way down! What a crazy belief system. LOL! Hey lets make fun of it. Nah, it wouldnt be right to make fun of someones religion or set up a straw man to tear down. Lets see if we can keep religion out of science:
The National Association of Biology Teachers [NABT] in their 1995 Official Statement on Teaching Evolution stated the following:
"The diversity of life [all life] on earth is the outcome of evolution: an unsupervised, impersonal, unpredictable and natural process of temporal descent with genetic modification that is affected by natural selection, chance, historical contingencies and changing environments."
It took seven years of prodding from conservative groups before they revised the statement. According to the NABT's executive director, the change was made ``to avoid taking a religious position'' that might offend believers. The two words that were removed from their statement were; 'unsupervised' and 'impersonal'. These two words made the NABT's statement religious and faith-based. To illustrate, change the words to 'supervised' and 'personal'. Either way, both statements would be outside the purely 'material constraints' that science now (ironically thanks in part to Darwin) currently imposes. Their statement boldly claimed that there was no intelligent cause (force, etc.) behind mankind and all existence.
Anyway, let's look at a college textbook and see what it has to say on the subject:
According to Douglas Futuyamas widely used college textbook Evolutionary Biology(1998), Darwins theory of random, purposeless variations acted on by blind, purposeless natural selection provided a revolutionary new answer to almost all questions that begin with Why? Darwin made theological or spiritual explanations of the life processes superfluous, and thereby provided a crucial plank to the platform of mechanism and materialism that is now the stage of most Western thought.
Well, we can't use this because it is a religious statement. I guess we should look at a required/recommended reading book for college biology:
"Paley's argument is made with passionate sincerity and is informed by the best biological scholarship of his day, but it is wrong, gloriously and utterly wrong. The analogy between . . . watch and living organism, is false. All appearances to the contrary, the only watchmaker in nature is the blind forces of physics, albeit deployed in a very special way. A true watchmaker has foresight: he designs his cogs and springs, and plans their interconnections, with a future purpose in the mind's eye. Natural selection, the blind, unconscious, automatic process which Darwin discovered, and which we now know is the explanation for the existence and apparent purposeful form of all life, has no purpose in mind. It has no mind and no mind's eye. It does not plan for the future. It has no vision, no foresight, no sight at all. If it can be said to play the role of watchmaker in nature, it is the blind watchmaker.
The Blind Watchmaker: Why the Evidence of Evolution Reveals a Universe Without Design (p. 5)
-Richard Dawkins
Another religious statement? Hmmm
The National Association of Biology Teacher's, college textbooks, and required/recommended reading material.
Maybe it's just human nature (human nature? Humans - intelligent -- nature stupid </Frankenstein mode>)...
If things that people detest exist in religion i.e. --- dogmatism, conceit, mockery, intolerance, and power-obsession, --- why would we not expect to see it in science as well?
Especially when science becomes religion.
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