[TopQuark]

I am sorry that the strength of my words was not perhaps proportional to what you said. But you've got to agree that in the post to which I replied you sang a very different tune. You did not differentiate any Jews, not even European and American ones. And, while appreciate your support and respect you for your personal courage, on whose "team" we are is still less important than the matter of principle.

Now, being Jewish, I am angry with my fellow co-religionists in this country for being blinded by the Left. We can debate why it happened; we can point to the reasons for that --- but that is for another day. But I do take an issue with your assessment of "Jews have a long and disgraceful tradition of supporting leftist political movements." Their support is not greater than those who abandoned Christian values for the leftist ones. Many Jews are overachievers and are consequently visible. One notices many Jewish names among the Russian Bolsheviks -- that does not make them over-represented. For all those Jews that were seduced by the promised, and delivered, equality, there are millions of Jews that left Russia for America and Palestine. In Amsterdam, Catholics and Protestants combined constitute 11% (by comparison, Muslims comprise 12%, the largest religion in that city), and we know how much to the left Europe currently lies. By comparison, of those under 30 years of age, 61% of Jews voted for Bush in this country.

For a person on "my team," as you put it, you somehow revert to the same wordings that one finds on… shall we say, not so wholesome web sites. Perhaps you should be aware of that: the company we keep matters, as you know.

For whatever it is worth to you, I am as pro-individual freedom (which includes, gun-ownership, of course) and vehemently anti-socialist as you are.