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Michigan City Council OKs Muslim Prayer Over Loudspeaker
Fox News website ^ | April 21 | Associated press

Posted on 04/21/2004 11:17:44 AM PDT by righteousindignation

Hamtramck,Mich.--Over some residents' objections, the City Council voted unanimously Tuesday night to allow a mosque to send out a call to prayer to Muslims on a loudspeaker....five times a day.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: muslimamericans; muslims
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To: Steve_Seattle
Islam IS a threat to the USA, both internally and externally, but there are some things we can't do in opposing it.

So let's just let them run us over. I guess we are just powerless. Does the law stop the democRATS from doing anything that suits their agenda? Never & the opposition better fight back because those laws definitely won't be around when they are in power.

101 posted on 04/21/2004 12:39:44 PM PDT by Digger
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To: jpsb
Christan values and Western civilization are inseparable. Lose one you lose the other.

A Nation which supports the legalised slaughter of the unborn, and commits it at the rate of 4000 per day, has already lost Christian values.

102 posted on 04/21/2004 12:40:12 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Monty22
You don't know what you're talking about, at all.

Thank you for proving my point.

103 posted on 04/21/2004 12:41:41 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Guillermo
"Also, it's hard to defend the modern West. Mohammedans look at the West and see homosexuality, abortion, drunkenness, drug usage and immorality all around."

This angle fascinates me because many of the Christians who are the most anti-Islamic share many of the Islamist critiques about the corruption of modern Western society. And, ironically, the liberals who are most likely to make excuses for Muslim extremism ("why they hate us") rarely mention these issues - they talk about Israel, oil, etc., but never admit that sexual permissiveness, alcohol use, etc., give fuel to the Islamists' rage. But it seems to me that from a traditional Christian point of view, Islam cannot be faught only - or even primarily - with weapons, but by returning to Christian values. It seems that the rise of Islamic rage has coincided very neatly with the decline of Christian values in the West.
104 posted on 04/21/2004 12:41:44 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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To: Steve_Seattle
So now you're doing the 'it's our fault' argument even. Whose side are you two on?
106 posted on 04/21/2004 12:42:54 PM PDT by Monty22
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To: antiRepublicrat
the Christians need to keep their cool and show no signs that their opposition is actually anti-Muslim. That would give CAIR far too much ammo for their agenda.

Oh come on now anti! Do you really think Christians CARE what CAIR thinks? Their God does not care, and neither will Christians!

Chridstians (and others who dont wnat to be forced to hear muslime prostulizing) need to protest, or do somethhing similar in defense.

Who is to say that the Christian God has not TOLD His people to do just that?
107 posted on 04/21/2004 12:43:15 PM PDT by Iron Matron (Civil Disobedience? It's not just for liberals anymore!)
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To: JackRyanCIA
He almost certainly is one, nobody else talks this way.
108 posted on 04/21/2004 12:43:23 PM PDT by Monty22
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To: Guillermo
I'd hate America too if I was one of them


It sounds like you already do.
109 posted on 04/21/2004 12:44:48 PM PDT by Iron Matron (Civil Disobedience? It's not just for liberals anymore!)
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To: jpsb
"Christan values and Western civilization are inseparable. Lose one you lose the other."

I agree, up to a point (see my previous post). But what some people seem to be advocating here is creating a Saudia Arabia in reverse, i.e., banning public expression of Islam.
110 posted on 04/21/2004 12:44:57 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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To: jpsb
Christan values and Western civilization are inseparable. Lose one you lose the other.



But, we WON'T loose! :)
111 posted on 04/21/2004 12:46:11 PM PDT by Iron Matron (Civil Disobedience? It's not just for liberals anymore!)
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To: righteousindignation
Let's just thank this "Two-Party Cartel" for NOT enforcing immigration laws that created this mess. The enemy is within.
112 posted on 04/21/2004 12:47:01 PM PDT by Digger
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To: bk1000
My understanding is that it is Albanian "refugees" from the "situation" in Kosovo, coming here and spreading the same filth they spread there. No wonder they're also known as "Elbow-nians". The opposition is Polish Catholics who have been there for (I think) 80-100 years. They do ring their bells, and they don't like this one bit. I expect violence.
113 posted on 04/21/2004 12:48:31 PM PDT by johnb838 ("I really don't care; they're all gonna die," US Marine in Fallujah)
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To: MortMan
Here's the issue: 5:00am and 10:00pm. Churches across America have had to cease ringing their bells during "quiet times" and yet the call to prayer is going to be heard at 5am and 10pm, when the tolling has been forced to cease.



Mort, this should be rectified by BRAND NEW church sacraments. Church bells should ring the 5 times the islamic call is made (to drown it out) and an additional two times in further Glory to the ONE TRUE GOD!

DO IT CHRISTIANS. DONT BE PANSIES. DONT WORRY ABOUT MUSLIMES, WHO WILL TRY TO SUE - SUE THEM BACK!

Remember Christian SOLDIERS? Remember CHRIST"S ARMOUR?

REMEBER HOW MOSES DEFEATED THE KING OF EGYPT.

CHRISTIANITY IS NOT A PANSY RELIGION. GROW SOME CAJONES!
114 posted on 04/21/2004 12:49:46 PM PDT by Iron Matron (Civil Disobedience? It's not just for liberals anymore!)
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To: righteousindignation
Lets cut a little slack here, they are too damn dumb to come to prayer unless they hear some intafada radical Immam screaming into a microphone.
115 posted on 04/21/2004 12:50:55 PM PDT by hgro
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To: keats5
how is this different than the angelus bells?

Good question.

Well here it goes...
The "call" to prayer is more than that it is a confirmation that:
1) God is most great
2) I testify that there is no god butt allah
3) I testify that mad mo is his prophet
4) Come to prayer ( mandatory )
5) Come to salvation or deliverance
6) God is most great
7) There is no god butt god


Then, off mike..
1) Die infidel scum
2) Infidels lives are worth no value
3) Burka sale at 5pm

Please consider that they majority of funding for these cults some from saudia arabia which has proved time after time that they are NO friend of ours. How many Churches are there in SA? Can I go to mecca to circle a rock covered up with a sheet if I am a Christan?. Can we build a church in mecca? WTF!! The whahhabi sect of islam which has caused so much trouble this far has its sights firmly set on the great satan. There are NOT here for freedom..there are here to only subjugate us.

Pork akbar!
116 posted on 04/21/2004 12:51:18 PM PDT by BayouCoyote (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices it.)
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To: antiRepublicrat
What you need to understand is that good and evil exist in this world. The bible tells of the comming great battle between good and evil. Now you need to decide which side you intent to be on. So far it appears that you are on the side of evil. You are siding with evil, because you are defending as moral equivalents Christan culture (western) and Islamic culture. Nothing is farther from the truth.
117 posted on 04/21/2004 12:51:26 PM PDT by jpsb (Nominated 1994 "Worst writer on the net")
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To: Monty22
So now you're doing the 'it's our fault' argument even. Whose side are you two on?

I'm on the side of the Constitution and civil harmony. They should not have allowed this knowing not only how much it would anger those of other religions, but also how much noise pollution this would be.

But the Muslims being wrong on one request is not reason for those ignorant in and hateful of the religion to go around digging out select quotes and falsehoods in order to trash it in general. Why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye?

118 posted on 04/21/2004 12:51:50 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: omega4412
Agree on what CDs to use, synchronize watches, and let the Moslems know where we stand


EVERY CHRISTIAN HOME! OPEN YOUR WINDOWS!

PLAY THAT CHRISTIAN MUSIC, GOTTA PLAY THATCHRISTIAN MUSIC!

DO IT. SEVEN TIMES DAILY. NO ONE CAN STOP YOUR FREEDOM TO PRACTICE NOISY RELIGION!

THE BAR HAS BEEN SET RISE UP TO IT!

RING YOUR BELLS, CHRISTIAN DRIVERS ROLL YOU WINDOWS DOWN AND PLAY THAT CHRISTIAN MUSIC!
119 posted on 04/21/2004 12:52:04 PM PDT by Iron Matron (Civil Disobedience? It's not just for liberals anymore!)
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To: hapy
How about all the Churches synchronize their bell ringing for the same time?
120 posted on 04/21/2004 12:52:28 PM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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