[TheBattman]

There's a reason you have a bad feeling - this is the sign of weakness many of us have been warning about for some time now.

We lost....at least in Fallujah. We didn't loose because we don't have the military means, we lost because we don't have the guts to do what it would take to fix that stinkhole problem.

With major netwoks reporting that GW's approval rating is at it's lowest thus far in his term, and his "handling of Iraq" also at a low approval level, I hope he's not pulling a Clinton and waffling in the public opinion breeze.

[TomGuy]

We lost....at least in Fallujah. We didn't loose because we don't have the military means, we lost because we don't have the guts to do what it would take to fix that stinkhole problem.

Too much politicking and diplomacy before the war has been won. The 'insurgents' will only be more bold, if they perceive a win. Somalia emboldened OLB to commit 9-11---bin Laden admitted that.