[sinkspur]

Donning flame-resistant suit as an awful lot of people find it really convenient to blame it either on women or gays in the military. I really don't think it had anything to do with either. It was just a poor command structure, poor commanders, and enough lowlifes (but fairly run-of-the-mill lowlifes, not anomalous or out of the ordinary) in the wrong place at the wrong time.

I could not agree with you more. Instead of trying to blame a "gender" or "orientation," why not just look at this squarely?

There are some brutal, ignorant people in our society, and, giving them some "enemies" to act out their brutal fantasies on, gets us where we are today.

There are cops like this. Most of them work in large city police forces, and are drummed out before they kill somebody.

A few get through, however, and they're the ones who end up on the front pages.

[Southack]

"Donning flame-resistant suit as an awful lot of people find it really convenient to blame it either on women or gays in the military. I really don't think it had anything to do with either."

Thousands of nude photos. Naked human pyramids. Nude men on leashes. Videos of multiple homosexual rapes.

And you don't think that this was a gay porn ring in a "don't ask, don't tell" military?!