[sinkspur]

how do you know? we have no idea what is out there, in totality. events could have been staged and filmed, anyone can wear a US army uniform and be filmed from the neck down raping an iraqi teenager.

Any evidence that any of this was "staged"? Every single one of the participants in the photos released so far has been identified as a service member or an outsourced civilian.

Don't kid yourself; these are our guys, doing unbelieveably dumb things.

[oceanview]

I was referring to the next set of photos. when someone holds a dog near a prisoner, and that is referred to as "torture", its clear that that photo isn't being presented with any context. who know what the next sets will show. Hersh has already tipped his hand - the "rape" stuff is coming.

[NJ_gent]

"Any evidence that any of this was "staged"?"

If any such evidence exists, it will all come out at the Courts Martial, the first of which is May 19th, if I recall correctly. I'm reserving my end judgement about this whole thing until I know the content of all the evidence and have heard the soldiers' side of the story. Much of how I end up looking at this whole thing will be determined by how severely the folks involved are punished. I have faith that our military courts will give these individuals a fair and honest hearing, and will sentence them justly.

[not2worry]

I don't dispute that these are our men and women, but I am still curious what motivated them in the first place?

Obviously, it would unquestionable that the idea of going from dirt poor to extremely wealthy by providing this kind of crap to the DEMS could be possible.

These punks are being described by the press as uneducated, poor white folks that their orders from higher ups. So far the only higher up that I've seen named is "Jan", who also claims she was set up. Where did these kids get the money to buy digital cameras and the equipment to burn them onto CDs.

Maybe I am missing something. You all can consider me dumb since I live south of the Mason Dixon line.