Six die as suspicions of anthrax mount in northern city (Iraq)

iraq press ^ | 5/12/04

[Ditter]

Thats what I thought. ;9)

[Peach]

Or inhale it. I'm forgetting a lot of stuff from October 2001.

[aft_lizard]

Not to rule out terrorism but the first victim is described as a shepherd. Well wherever animals like sheep and cows kick up dirt and others anthrax has a possibility of being kicked up so it could be the shepherd came upon a patch of earth infected with the bacteria.

[bwteim]

Right:
"The only way cutaneous anthrax can be transmitted is by direct contact with the drainage from an open sore."
http://www.learnwell.org/anthrax.htm

[bwteim]

I figure'd you did in your #7, that's why I sourced it.

[tet68]

Well, try it again. Those unusually wet summers also precipitated many cases of Ergot poisoning from the smut which developed on the rye grains.

See St.Anthoney's Fire.

History

Epidemics Some examples of historical epidemics include the Black Death, or Plague, of Medieval Europe, the influenza epidemic occurring about the same time as World War I, and the current AIDS epidemic.

See also : epidemiology.

..... Click the link for more information. of the disease were identified throughout history, though the references in classical writers are inconclusive. Rye, the main vector for transmitting ergotism, was not grown much around the Mediterranean. When Fuchs [1834] separated references to ergotism from erysipelas Erysipelas (or cellulitis) is a group A streptococcal infection resulting in inflammation of skin and underlying tissues.

Signs and Symptoms: The skin is painful, red, and tender. Patients experience fever and chills. Lymph nodes may be swollen. The skin may blister and then scab over. Perianal cellulitis may also occur with itching and painful bowel movements. The erysipelas rash may occur on face, arms, or legs and has raised borders. The infection may recur, causing chronic swelling of extremities (lymphadenitis). ..... Click the link for more information. and other afflictions he found the earliest reference to ergotism in the Annales Xantenses for the year 857: "a Great plague of swollen blisters consumed the people by a loathsome rot, so that their limbs were loosened and fell off before death."

In the Middle Ages the gangrenous poisoning was known as ignis sacer ("holy fire") or "Saint Anthony Anthony the Great (251 - 356), also known as Anthony of Egypt, Anthony of the Desert, and Anthony the Anchorite, was a leader among the Desert Fathers, who were Christian monks in the Egyptian desert in the 3rd and 4th centuries A.D. His feast day is celebrated on January 17th in both the eastern and western churches.

He was born near Heraclea in Upper Egypt. In 285, he sold all that he had, gave the proceeds to the poor, and withdrew into the desert. A number of other Christians heard of his holiness and went there to join him, forming what may have been the first monastic community.

..... Click the link for more information. 's fire", named for the 4th century hermit of Egypt. The 12th century chronicler Geoffroy du Breuil of Vigeois Geoffroy du Breuil of Vigeois was a 12th century French chronicler trained at the Benedictine abbey of Saint-Martial of Limoges, the site of a great early library. Geoffroy became abbot at Vigeois (1170 -1184) where he composed his Chroniques which trace in detail some great local families (often Geoffroy's forebears and kin) while relating events happening from 994 to 1184: the fiery convulsive sickness, actually Ergotism from a fungus or ergot of wheat, the preparations for the First Crusade, reports of combats in the Holy Land, the genocide of the Cathars in the Albigensian Crusade (he used the term "Albigensians" in 1181), all the while unconsciously revealing the preoccupations and manners of the times.

..... Click the link for more information. recorded the mysterious outbreaks in the Limousin region of France, where the gangrenous form of ergotism was associated with the local Saint Martial Saint Martial was the first bishop of Limoges, France , according to a life of Saturninus, first bishop of Toulouse, which Gregory of Tours quotes in his History of the Franks. That is all that is known and it may be summed up thus: Under the Emperor Decius and of Gratus (250/51 CE), seven bishops were sent from Rome to Gaul to preach the Gospel: Gatien to Tours, Trophimus to Arles, Paul to Narbonne, Saturninus to Toulouse, Denis to Paris, Austromoine to Clermont, and Martial to Limoges. ..... Click the link for more information. as much as Saint Anthony. The blight, named from the cock's spur it forms on grasses, was identified and named by Denis Dodart reported the relation between ergotized rye and bread poisoning in a letter to the French Royal Academy of Sciences in 1676 (John Ray mentioning ergot for the first time in English the next year), but "ergotism" in this modern sense was first recorded in 1853.

Research of Linnda Caporael (1976) that the seven girls and women who were tried in the Salem witch trials The Salem witch trials were the result of a period of Puritan paranoia which led to the deaths of at least twenty-five people and the imprisonment of scores more.

In 1692, in Salem Village, (now Danvers, Massachusetts), a number of young girls, particularly Abigail Williams and Betty Parris, accused other townsfolk of magically possessing them, and therefore of being witches or warlocks. ..... Click the link for more information. of 1692 in Massachusetts, were genuinely suffering hallucinations and other symptoms of convulsive ergotism. Similar eruptions of ergotism also occurred in Essex and Fairfield counties in Connecticut that damp and cool season, though in Connecticut no one went to the stake. Notable epidemics of ergotism, at first seen as a punishment from God, occured up into the 19th century. Fewer outbreaks have occured since then, because in developed countries rye Rye Scientific classification Kingdom: Plantae Division: Magnoliophyta Class: Liliopsida Order: Poales Family: Poaceae Genus: Secale Binomial name Secale cereale References ITIS 42089 2002-09-22 Rye (Secale cereale) is a grass grown extensively as a grain and forage crop. It is a member of the wheat tribe and is closely related to barley and wheat. Rye grain is used to make flour, feed and some whiskeys. Rye, alone or overseeded, is planted as a livestock forage or harvested for hay. It is highly tolerant of soil acidity. The first possible use of domestic rye comes from the site of Tell Abu Hureyra in northern Syria, in the Euphrates Valley, dating to late Epi-Palaeolithic. ..... Click the link for more information. is carefully monitored. When milled the ergot is reduced to a red powder, obvious in lighter grasses but easy to miss in dark rye flour. The last reported outbreak, which caused more than 200 cases and 4 deaths, occurred in 1951 in Pont St. Esprit, France.

[swilhelm73]

It is my understanding that naturally occuring Anthrax spores reside in the feces of livestock and contact with such can result in contagion?

That's my point. You can get cutaneous anthrax by physically coming into contact with infect ground while you have an open wound. Once exposed, unless you are carrying this ground with you, or conceivably infected fleece, you aren't a threat to anyone else.

The only way someone could "catch" anthrax from you is if you were literally covered in the stuff. And again, even if somehow this came true, as long as you got medical treatment the odds of mortality are incredibly low - less then 1%.

Perhaps, OTOH, someone found that missing anthrax...

[alnick]

I thought I read that Anthrax isn't contagious.

[Rokke]

"Iraq is a country who lives on rumors"

You are absolutely right.

[Rokke]

Who knows. But I guess that's the point. The only thing more dramatic than fanatical Arabs is high school girls on the last day of school. For all we know 6 people died from food poisoning, or 3 people died from rabies or 10 died from TB. The point is, things are rarely as they are portrayed by Arab press. Wait for a statement from the CPA. They don't lie (believe it or not) and have no reason to hide an outbreak of anthrax poisoning.

[steve86]

The only way someone could "catch" anthrax from you is if you were literally covered in the stuff.

Yes, either Anthrax isn't the disease, or if it is Anthrax it wasn't spread communicably.

I guess there is the remotest possibility that a communicable "Anthrax" has been created somewhere, by taking genes from the Anthrax spore/bacterium and combining them into an infectious bacteria.

[swilhelm73]

Well, if it is such radically altered anthrax I wonder how long until the press tells us the culprit must be a disgruntled American scientist.

Seriously though, either this is something else entirely or the US better get the WMD team up there.

[meanie monster]

We live in interesting times. I am Christian and I could and should be a better one. My instincts tell me the end is near.

Our instincts (IMO) is God talking to us. It is his gift to us all. My instints are almost always dead on.

What do you guys think?

[GottaLuvAkitas1]

thanks for posting this!

Bump!!!

[Mitchell]

Early on, before we ever invaded Iraq, there was one small newspaper report from somewhere in Iraq asking for information about anthrax. Maybe you can find this.

From the Feb. 15, 2003, issue of the Guardian:

Report: Iraq Asked Finland About Anthrax

HELSINKI, Finland (AP) - The Iraqi Embassy in Helsinki sought information about anthrax from the foreign ministry in October, Finnish media reported Saturday.

The query - reportedly lodged about a month before the return of U.N. weapons inspectors to Baghdad - sought suitable methods ``for the early detection of anthrax,'' the Ilta-Sanomat newspaper reported.

The request also concerned ``ways of protecting against anthrax, as well as methods, procedures and equipment needed for decontamination,'' the tabloid said.

Ilta-Sanomat said that the head of the foreign ministry's political division, Markus Lyra, confirmed the report.

``We did not answer it (the request) at all, and there have been no further discussions,'' Lyra was quoted as saying. ``It is not our field.''

``One wonders, whether it was intended simply for propaganda or similar purposes,'' he added.

Foreign ministry officials were unavailable for comment Saturday.

There was an FR thread on this: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/844108/posts/

However... I see no reason to believe that the article quoted in this new FR thread represents something of significance. The disease mentioned in that article is likely either to be naturally-occurring anthrax or not to be anthrax at all.

[not_apathetic_anymore]

I guess there is the remotest possibility that a communicable "Anthrax" has been created somewhere, by taking genes from the Anthrax spore/bacterium and combining them into an infectious bacteria.

I just bought a couple of older books off of half.com Germ and plague wars. I've just skimmed a few pages but it seems to me that plague wars does discuss altered anthrax (maybe with a plague bit of DNA...I cant remember for sure... I'll try to find the sentence or two). Clearly the purpose of the alteration was to make it a better bioweapon becoming more infectious, contagious, or lethal.

Off now to search for a sentence I read somewhere in a book somewhere....

[Sacajaweau]

Have to recall what we were doing about Anthrax....spraying our mail with clorox, washing our hands 100 times more than usual AND praying!

We need to know what these folks had in common that brought them to the hospital in the first place.

We need to re-read McKay's report; the one where he specifically mentions his surprise at the progress of the Iraqis in their ability to mill the Anthrax.