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Spurs Won Game Five [Photo analysis of last .4 seconds]
Full Sports Press.com ^ | 5/14/04

Posted on 05/14/2004 11:36:39 AM PDT by ZGuy

[Follow the link to see the photos that go along with the text]

Notice how Fisher catches the ball with his feet in the air. So he landed on the ground, turned, pivoted and then shot in .4? No way.

Here is Fisher landing on the ground. Clock is still at .4.

Fisher starting to turn to the hoop. Clock still the same.

Fisher continues to turn. Clock continues to say .4.

Fisher pivoting. Clock frozen.

Fisher is beginning to go up with the shot. Still .4?!?!

Fisher is now all the way around, ready to go into shooting motion. The clock is amazingly still on .4.


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To: Night Hides Not

Bush will most certainly win the election if the Lakers win the NBA title.


41 posted on 05/14/2004 12:24:24 PM PDT by ambrose (AP Headline: "Kerry Says His 'Family' Owns SUV, Not He")
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To: swilhelm73

I agree, there was a very clear replay shot, looking towards the basket, of the ball being out of Fisher's hands with .1 left on the clock.

No one likes a sore loser. Miracles and dog days happen to every team, spread over time. On to the next game!


42 posted on 05/14/2004 12:24:46 PM PDT by GOPrincess
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To: smith288
Besides...NBA has sucked since the Jordan led Bulls.

Led or Left? As far as I can tell NBA officiating started to go downhill with Jordan. I didn't watch as much B-ball pre-Jordan, but I don't remember seeing the super star calls and the MVP-can-get-away-with-murder calls back then, just the home team is favored type calls.

I will always remember Jordan as the guy that blantantly pushed off Bryon Russell to get off a shot and win a title. Not only did the refs not call it the NBA made it a poster.

And no, I'm not a Utah Fan. :)
43 posted on 05/14/2004 12:25:41 PM PDT by swilhelm73
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To: ZGuy

Seems to me a lot of time could be saved in professional basketball if all games started with the score 90 to 90 with 3 minutes left to play.


44 posted on 05/14/2004 12:27:18 PM PDT by edger (A)
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To: ambrose

As much as I think the Spurs have generally been a classy organization - how can anyone root for a team now with one of its stars being a Frenchmen? Even if I wasn't a Lakers fan, I'd pull for any team - well expect Sacramento - to beat SA, though I think LA is the only team that can do it...


45 posted on 05/14/2004 12:27:54 PM PDT by swilhelm73
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To: ZGuy

I counted 55 frames (between Fisher's catching the ball and releasing it) on my TIVO. I'm not sure how far the TIVO advances on each forward click; but it must have been over 1 second. Fisher doesn't catch and shoot; he lowers the ball close to his knees then starts his jump.

I was surprised none of the announcers noticed.

I think it's clearly the time keeper's fault: he was slow starting the clock. He's an employee of the home team, no? This is Texas, right? Do they still lynch people for crimes?


46 posted on 05/14/2004 12:32:40 PM PDT by RossA
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To: ZGuy
What a no-brainer.

If the Lakers win the series the TV ratings go up. LA is a bigger market than any place in Texas. If the ratings go up the NBA gets more $.

You don't have to be a genius to figure that out. [There are already muted gripes from network and NBA officials about the dreadful possibility of a finale between, perhaps, the Spurs and the Pacers. Horror of horrors - small market teams ought not to be in finals.]

47 posted on 05/14/2004 12:33:12 PM PDT by curmudgeonII (Time wounds all heels.)
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To: TexanAmerican

"Considering Kobe's situation, I would have said Calvin Murphy and not Bill Sharmans."

Whatever you call it (and I personally don't think you GAF about Kobe's situation), his team still leads yours by a game. Deal with it.


48 posted on 05/14/2004 12:34:25 PM PDT by Christian4Bush (I approve this message: character and integrity matter. Bush/Cheney for '04.)
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To: RossA
I think it's clearly the time keeper's fault: he was slow starting the clock.

As posted above in a photo, he was also slow in stopping the clock. Should have been .8 seconds left instead of .4.

He's an employee of the home team, no?

No. Time keepers are provided by the NBA according to a post above.

Also, if memory serves me right, and I believe it does, the "game clock" on scoreboards is not the "offical" game clock. That is seperate, and as pointed out above, activates the red light behind the hoop.

49 posted on 05/14/2004 12:35:30 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: curmudgeonII

The NBA stinks. A bunch of whiney attention starved thugs. Having a much better time watching the NHL playoffs. Those guys earn their pay.


50 posted on 05/14/2004 12:37:36 PM PDT by roostercogburn
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To: Phantom Lord

It is also possible that the clock was set at 0.0499 seconds, which would account for Fisher being able to jump up in the air mid catch and make the shot.


51 posted on 05/14/2004 12:39:05 PM PDT by sathers
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To: Fishing-guy
See post 35.

The Spurs should stop whining and start playing. I thought their coach was going to cry.

52 posted on 05/14/2004 12:40:56 PM PDT by Strider
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To: Baseballguy

I'd like to see the Olympic events judged with modern optics also. The pole vaulters could vault and they would be judged on how high they actually went. If they vault 18' they wouldn't only get credit for 17' 9" because that's where the bar was set. Long jumpers would be judged for the actual length of their jump and not penalized for their toes being 1/2 inch further back than their competitors when they left the ground. Runners and swimmers could be judged starting from the time their nose broke the plane of the starting line. Trying to time the start would no longer matter. There are tons of improvements that could be made to find out who truly is the best. I'd love to see a track meet like that. If promoted well it could be a very popular event on TV as well. It'll never happen though. Sigh.</p>


53 posted on 05/14/2004 12:45:03 PM PDT by ZGuy
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To: sathers

why should the clock stop after duncans shot , doesn't someone have to call time out? and you have to call it and refereee has to acknowledge, how do you do that in .8 seconds?


54 posted on 05/14/2004 12:45:16 PM PDT by robjna
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To: Phantom Lord
I just calibrated the frame-forward feature on my TIVO. It advances 1/30th of a second (one frame) with each click - in exact agreement with the specification. (You do this by Pausing then pressing Forward. I tried this on a program which showed a running time; the program's clock advanced exactly 1 second every 30 presses).

This implies Fisher had the ball in his hands for 1.8 seconds (55 frames). This renders the question of the time left (0.4 or 0.8 seconds) after Duncan's shot irrelevant.

If I were the time-keeper I would not return to Texas - ever.

55 posted on 05/14/2004 12:46:17 PM PDT by RossA
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To: dfwgator


And they had a foul to give to boot! Also, if they had made their freaking FREE THROWS the Spurs would have won easily. I mean, junior high players can make 25 free throws in a row, but the NBA apes can't seem to manage it any more.


56 posted on 05/14/2004 12:53:15 PM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: swilhelm73

Oscar Robertson used to complain about officiating when I was a kid (and that was a long time ago). It has always sucked. And it always will, because the fans want it that way. Imagine if they called traveling every time a player takes 5 steps toward the basket before his super duper slam dunk. Or imagine if they called every foul on O'Neil. He'd never make it out of the 1st quarter.

Last years NBA final was the lowest rated in history. If you think the league is going to let that happen again, keep dreaming.


57 posted on 05/14/2004 12:55:48 PM PDT by stop_fascism (The NBA - as legit as pro wrestling, but more expensive.)
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To: roostercogburn

The NHL thugs may be attention starved, but they don't whine!


58 posted on 05/14/2004 12:57:05 PM PDT by stop_fascism
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To: robjna

Phil Jackson did call timeout and appealed for the extra time, but ABC did not have that camera angle up.


59 posted on 05/14/2004 12:57:33 PM PDT by sathers
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To: ZGuy
Wow! I looked at those photos really close and could almost make out that they were of a basketball game.

Scoreboard!!

Lakers Win!
Woo Hoo!

60 posted on 05/14/2004 1:06:34 PM PDT by socal_parrot
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