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Budget cars en route from China
Houston Chronicle ^ | May 16, 2004 | DAVID KAPLAN

Posted on 05/16/2004 8:03:00 AM PDT by Dog Gone

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To: 1john2 3and4

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61 posted on 05/16/2004 9:50:02 AM PDT by Flyer (CAUTION! People May Be Dumber Than They Appear In The Forum)
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To: 1rudeboy

I have the rendezvous which has US engineering(unless that got outsourced to india, I don't know), profits GM which mostly goes to fund it 11 billion dollar pension fund deficit and is made in mexico. I looked at the Ranier (made near dayton I think) , but it was too expensive, got worse gas, had smaller space, was about 10k more and did not handle as well (it's a truck, the vous is more like a car). The ranier does have better off road abiltiy, but I don't go off road.


62 posted on 05/16/2004 9:50:26 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: Dog Gone
However, the government still rules with an iron fist and in partnership with private enterprise. In other words, China is not communist; it is fascist.

Great observation!

63 posted on 05/16/2004 9:52:21 AM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Freepmail me if you'd like to read one of my Christian historical romance novels!)
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To: Flyer

right! thanks, i caught that.....time will tell if theyre as foolish to use poor quality alloy in their engines (otoh, detroit's doing it.....)


64 posted on 05/16/2004 9:54:31 AM PDT by 1john2 3and4
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To: All

I've been seeing a Yugo on my way to work each day. Yes, it's moving. No rust, no smoke and it keeps up with the traffic. I was just amazed.


65 posted on 05/16/2004 9:55:03 AM PDT by listenhillary (The media and DNC have joined the terrorists and declared war on the USA.)
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To: Rome2000

Chicago Tribune | Foreign automakers drive jobs back to U.S.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/careers/chi-0403020224mar02,1,1157717.story?coll=chi-navrailbusiness-nav

"Nissan's Smyrna, Tenn., plant was the most productive, requiring 17 labor hours per vehicle. Toyota averaged 22 hours per vehicle, with Honda close behind. GM averaged 24 hours, Ford 26 and Chrysler 28."

We may pay more to the EPA, OHSA, and other government mandates then labor in the cost of a US made car.


66 posted on 05/16/2004 9:55:28 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (Sane, and have the papers to prove it!)
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To: Samurai_Jack

LoL!


67 posted on 05/16/2004 9:56:11 AM PDT by Colonel Jim
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To: 4Freedom
It's my contention that corporate bean counters and engineers have more to do with the perception that our cars are of a quality inferior to that of Japanese vehicles than union autoworkers do

Nope, everything in the world that's bad is because of union workers...< /sarcasm >

68 posted on 05/16/2004 9:57:10 AM PDT by lewislynn (Who made you, the casual observer, the expert?)
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To: neutrino
"I wonder why American soldiers, police, and firefighters should care to protect you. Perhaps, since you are so fond of the Chinese, you should ask their government to take over those roles on your behalf."

Duh.....let me think. Could it possibly be because my taxes pay their salaries????

Inquiring minds want to know.

69 posted on 05/16/2004 9:58:49 AM PDT by albee
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To: rageaholic

"These chi-comobiles will cost more than financing in repairs and towing. Not to mention safety issues."

Think again, almost every car repair part I buy is made in China. Before they were made in the USA, then Mexico, today China, and these parts are excellent being made on automated computer controlled tooling.

In my opinion these will sell very well indeed, China has too much riding on their reputation to put out crap. The SUV will from their military linage of vehicles, and it will be good.

I remember the 50's when the V W was ridiculed and scoffed at, I remember the 60's when it was said, "those little toys will never go over well here", Japanese vehicles were treated with the same doubt, no different then these.

And with Toyota now the # uno selling carmaker in the US of A, we all know the result of those know nothing little Nips trying to sell cars here.


70 posted on 05/16/2004 9:59:12 AM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: Samurai_Jack

"I have to agree here... american companies are hamstrung by the unions into being less than competetive. Now competition from foreign automakers is driving their unemployment rates like a skyrocket, and they are shocked.

Im not."


Me neither...Nissan beats the Union...looks like another is coming...look out Unions..you might have to start working for you money!


71 posted on 05/16/2004 10:00:30 AM PDT by Hotdog
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To: Dog Gone
This one has 'spodefly' written all over it ... in chinese:


72 posted on 05/16/2004 10:03:12 AM PDT by spodefly (<<<\\\|||///>>>)
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To: PersonalLiberties
American manufacturers use parts made only well enough to last what they calculate will be an acceptable amount of time to the consumer. Their goal is to keep the consumer motivated to buy a new car as often as they can afford to without losing that customer.

Planned obsolescence is as alive and well in the U.S. today as when you first learned about it in school.

73 posted on 05/16/2004 10:04:26 AM PDT by 4Freedom (America is no longer the 'Land of Opportunity', it's the 'Land of Illegal Alien Opportunists'!!!)
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To: Ursus arctos horribilis

Anything is possible, but with financing as low as it is, and the economy doing as well as it is, there's less incentive than ever to get a cheapie.


74 posted on 05/16/2004 10:04:30 AM PDT by rageaholic
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To: spodefly

'spodefly' ?


75 posted on 05/16/2004 10:04:53 AM PDT by Colonel Jim
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To: Incorrigible
Charming Engrish from your website:

It is an urban sport car. Its pure ardor appears before you boldly. With perfect and smooth lines, it looks wild and sexy. The decorating tail wing and the integrated crystal headlamp, all match your enthusiasm and ardor. Dancing and exciting air contains your romantic disposition, your wisdom and your elegance.

The infinite vital force and the excellent driving feeling heats up your endless enthusiasm in your blood vessels. It adopts MR479QA inline four-cylinder engine, manual 5-shift transmission, as well as hydraulic power steering unit, letting you enjoy quicker acceleration and accurate steering.

We make every effort to create the fine product, and what you need to do is to feel it with your heart. The double-color luxury instrument panel, adjustable genuine leather power seat, high quality sound system, beautiful dance and wonderful music will accompany you while you are driving on the road.

We integrate the freedom and security in the sport car. The braking system is composed of front braking discs and rear braking drums. It also has ABS system to make brake more quick and stable with good effect. Safety airbag is in front of the driver; the reverse radar and side bumpers let you demonstrate your individuality easily.

76 posted on 05/16/2004 10:05:48 AM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Freepmail me if you'd like to read one of my Christian historical romance novels!)
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To: Colonel Jim
Colonel Jim?
77 posted on 05/16/2004 10:06:15 AM PDT by spodefly (<<<\\\|||///>>>)
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To: Ursus arctos horribilis

People tend to forget that when Toyota first came to the USA, the car, called the Toyopet, was so bad it had to be withdrawn from the market and Toyota did not sell cars in American until years later.


78 posted on 05/16/2004 10:14:21 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: lewislynn

What a country. The GM/Ford/Chrysler accountants and management are doing us dirty and the poor saps that get hired to assemble the crappy, deliberately deficient components into the finished product that's sold get all the blame. Go figure.


79 posted on 05/16/2004 10:18:01 AM PDT by 4Freedom (America is no longer the 'Land of Opportunity', it's the 'Land of Illegal Alien Opportunists'!!!)
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To: Bringbackthedraft
I hope they last longer than the tools they make. Their metal is soft.

I don't know what that metal is, but I know I sure would hate to have my seat belt attached to it.
80 posted on 05/16/2004 10:23:15 AM PDT by Arkinsaw
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