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Posted on 05/17/2004 12:36:39 AM PDT by JustPiper
The next front.
I didnt mean to call anyone a fool...I had emailed the story to someone else and accidently copy and pasted that part of the msg.
If you had a weekend of attacks, the markets would open noticeably lower....
Of course they would, it's so easy to come across the border...why not.
Although they may have designs on the Panama Canal.
"99.99 percent of you guys". Please, go find the other 00.01 percent and congregate.
My, oh my, are we supposed to be thrilled with you or what? Why don't you enlighten us "idiots" with your superior knowledge of the subject, instead of coming on this thread and virtually demanding a treatise and/or doctoral thesis on "the grid." Unable to condense all of that superior knowledge down to a few sound bites for the consumption of the "unwashed masses"? Pity us that we missed the opportunity.
Most of us here on the Threat Matrix are doing our damnedest to stay abreast of a rapidly deteriorating situation; and we don't need someone with a condescending attitude lecturing us for our lack of knowledge in ANYTHING. Each here contributes in their own way, enlightening others in their given field of expertise.
You can come here and lurk, or you can come here and contribute in a productive manner (if you're capable).
If this is a little too opaque, let me clear it up for you: Play nice or GO ELSEWHERE.
Here is one terrorist battle plan that has been on the Internet. The following was posted by caseyb over at It's Happening BEFORE today's events in Saudi Arabia (it mentions the al qaeda commander referenced by Debka):
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A statement that the jihad general issued informed the leader / Abdalaziz Almqrn is !
The group of the secret work
The work in the cities needs separate small groups that number of their individuals do not exceed 4 mostly, and are from the city citizens who work in it, and that because the cities people knows their nature and its ways, and this speech is not on its shooting then the arrival of the desert people on the big cities may be usual .
It is a must from an universe the city man if he can the movement in it easily because the city in it the spies and the spies increases - due to the presence of most targets by them - and due to the presence of the men of rule and economy and the wealth, and she mostly - any of the cities - the imagination of the country prestige .
And he should not push by the groups of the secret work inside the cities without the getting of the necessary training and the necessary substantive documents and the good curtains, then an escape from training the individuals a high training, and an escape from finding desks for the forgery of the documents, if they should work in the cities, I prefer the organization elements an education and a culture and a training, because this matter will help the individuals in the move and the work .
Also the work in the cities needs a big material support very, and the reason in that : the rise of the costs of living in the cities about what he is on it in the mountains ( the cities with burning moneys ), until the curtain it can be very expensive, if the house was in a refined district then an escape from the possession of a suitable car it adapts to the place nature .
• An important note : there a mistake it fell in it most jihad groups, and he is that the individual in the organization knows each thing about the organization and its secret matters, or finds that a group of the work groups know a specific work nature or a specific operation from the alif to the ya'a, then it finds that it carries out a role of collector information and the prepared one and the executor and the leader, and it becomes necessary the fighting should benefit from their previous brothers experience and start ãä ÍíË ÇäÊåì these, then the information mosque should not know the target from the collection of the information about this a person or the facility, and it should not know the operation execution way and no the items used in the operation and no the way of its bringing to the operation site .. Also the preparing should not know why this weapon was gathered and no why he prepares these explosives .
The creations inside the cities :
More than is used in the cities a creation and among these formations the hierarchical organization and the organization of the rosary knotting and in the origin it is a must to any group that it carries out work and the arrangement of the organization papers according to the situation that lives in it and these matters mostly the command estimates them .
And among these formations :
First : group of the commands .
A second : group information collection .
A third : group of the preparations .
A fourth : group of the executions .
And she may be named the command set and the execution crew and so ..
Group field command : it consists of two individuals to three individuals .
Its tasks : the supervision over the staff tasks, and a direction and the three groups administration .
And this group receives the instructions mostly from the supreme command by means of the dead fund or by the contact not direct .
The dead fund : any means in it a non direct contact takes place between the two parties .
And the field command sends the instructions to rest of the groups by means of the dead funds also .
• Individuals this group ( the field command ) they should have a complete knowledge of the planning for the operations inside the cities, and therefore their choice takes place between the excellent elements inside the organization, and Al Aarf and the more knowledgeable is offered and that for it a knowledge by the military sciences on who he is better on the one hand the legitimate science, and the choice of individuals takes place this the group on their good management and their intelligence and Hassan their turning to the matters .
And training completes this group on the coming :
1- A study and the analysis of the information getter of them by group information collection, and should they have an ability for an analysis and all possible events deduction their occurence before their occurence .
2- A study and an analysis and planning the military operations, and putting the plans necessary for the attack and the withdrawal and the emergencies and the defence, and the analysis of interests and interests and the corruptions based on the work .
3- Individuals should be trained this group on the secret communications by all their forms ( all the kinds of receivers and sending ) and that at them the ability for the mastery of the meeting ways and the hopes of the secret meeting and other is as an examination and breaking the surveillance .
4- The mastery of the work of the other groups : the collection of the information - the preparation - the execution .
• The militants need a strong Islamic intelligence agency, and that for the confrontation of the dangers that surrounds the secret work in the cities, and most probably the work group intelligence agency in the city consists of four individuals, and they train on what they need in the door of security and intelligences, as this group should carry out the work of the other groups also : the preparation - the execution, and one of the intelligences individuals may be from the command, and therefore must be the choice of its individuals with extreme care .
First : group information collection :
From the ways suitable to the work of this crew that the collection operation takes place by a pair of the individuals ( two persons ), and if the target was big that completes the collection by the crew a complete, and if the target was the greatest orphanhood of their support by half its preparation 's orphanhood crew from the command .
And an escape from the distribution of the roles for to this group, and they distribute to them the sectors and the facilities for example, and completes their training on the coming :
5-The individual specializations, and that in order that the work does not stop, and is on the coming a way :
à - are Fni a computer, it can the entrance of the information and their bringing properly that these information whether were pictures or films or secret documents or data and written reports and in the sentence it forms an expert in the interaction with the computer .
By - then a classification answered information ( and means by them here the raw information ), and its important that it carries out the classification of the raw information and its classification, then it offers it to the computer arts so that Warshftha carries out its entrance - if the command ordered the work of my computer 's archive to the information and hopefully this matter leads us to the importance of the archive and the information storage derived from group information collection for the benefiting from it later .
Ê - an artistic photographing laboratory, and the notification becomes necessary here that the photographing developed a lot at the end of the nineties and was still until it reached a very prior border in the techniques of the photographing, and the doing totally without the old way may take place in the photographing ( the development ) and that by means of the digital cameras ( Digitall ) connected to the computer, then she the more security and the easiest in the interaction with it and its enlargement or its diminution and for it some of the advantages are not this the field of their count .
Ë - then it answered contacts, and it undertakes the preparation of the dead funds, and the work of meetings and secret communications .
A printing it is a must to each individual from them that it specializes in one of these specializations, but it is a must also from that all crew individuals are on a knowledge about all these sciences .
6- It should train this group in the collection of the raw field information by all of the means, and writing the intelligence reports and taking the pictures ( a photography - a video ), and the non undermining of any information they find it in the work field ( the surveillance site ), because the command is possible that it benefits from it, because it may be taken as a curtain or group of the executions benefit in the execution of the task it is a must from the observation of all of the present information in the observation place and their lifting to the classification individual if and that by its role will carry out its referral to the command for the benefiting from it .
An important note : from a more dangerous what kills the organizations and spends on them the contacts operation ( a wired - a wired - undertaking - not direct ) therefore the notification became necessary on this issue, and putting the plans for them, and the follow-up of the technological progress to the means of communication, because it if the contacts between the individuals and the command were proved and they settled then its time is possible the production and the work progress in a right way .
Here a realistic interest : what happened in the last days from a declaration that went is Salool to names twenty six militant, from the more important families targets Salool from that in addition to their inability and the exhaustion of in their hands and the failure of their security systems in the pursuit of the militants and their pursuit of freezing the nation and the purchase of the people compacts what carried out the publication of the wanted pictures, from the targets of this movement cutting off the contact between these and between the one(s) who make under their command, that they if they published their pictures then will be less and their moves and their connection with the external world are less therefore the contacts are considered from the important matters very and always each party maintains the hitting of the connections of the other party .
Group or the preparation crew :
This consists group of two individuals to four individuals and mostly they need this group to the ones who they have an experience in the preparation ways, and they have relations by the mafia or other from the smugglers because these are for them a previous experience then serve you a lot . A task this group : the preparation of all what the other groups need from a weapon and instruments and equipments and documents and ammunitions and safe houses and cars and other .
• Training takes place this group a wide and advanced training, and for them a special course is established it is named a course ( the preparation ), and they are trained in it on the coming :
1- Bringing the cars, here the enemy cars are meant by the cars and she is a booty no theft and the hire of the cars and their purchase and the bringing of the marine and sailing boats and other from the known means of transports .
2- The smuggling, and an escape here from the power of heart and starting, and the discretion and the intelligence, then it does not be disturbed in front of the checkpoints and no other .
3- The purchase ways of weapons and the ammunitions and their saving .
4- The forgery, and ways the provision of the needs of the substantive documents office by the whole of their systems and their equipments .
5- Also they train on a selection and the choice of the covers and the suitable curtains during the work, then each region of it its special cover, for example : they deal with the smugglers on not to they show that they are from the Islamists .
And in the truth that a work this group very great, and if it forgot us then will not forget here what Allah prophet said peace be upon him of Uthman may Allah be pleased with a day that he prepared the army of distress : what harmed Ibn Affan is what made after today he repeats it repeatedly . Ahmad and Al-Termezi narrated it .
Group or the execution crew :
She is the striking force, and the tyrannical hand to the cell, and the one that wishes is many of the joining by it, and if this group became weak the organization became weak, because it is the military instrument and she is the protection group and the deterrence belonging to the organization, and consists - for to the single cell - from two individuals to four individuals .
A task this group : the actual execution of the operations, and it completes their training on all what concerns the execution of the operations inside the cities ( assassinations - a kidnapping - a blow-up and a sabotage - the breakthroughs and the liberation of the hostages ) .
And before we speak about the jobs of these groups we will speak about transfer way and receiving the information between the present groups in the square land .
The transcription trend of orders and the information :
à - she issues the orders from the supreme command to the field command according to the reports that the field command refers .
By - she receives collected information collection the orders from the field command with the surveillance on a specific target, then it gathers the information and hence they bring them to the field command .
Ì - the field commands are sent the items preparation matter used in the operation to group of the preparations and when the preparation of the subjects takes place group of the preparations raise a report about the readiness of the items .
Ï - the field command sends an order of the readiness and the training to group of the executions and after the completion of the training the execution crew lifts the deciding of Bgahzithm for the execution of the task and consequently the field command sends its order of the execution of group of the executions .
Important notes :
1-From the important matters that the supreme command should be in a safe place totally, that it if it was hit then that means the direction of a strong blow to the organization .
2-It is also important the attraction of the scientists and their protection, because for them an effective role in the recruitment of a young man and the collection of the money and of them is their important social weight, and for them their important role is in the incitement of the nation generality also .
The divisions of the large cities :
She divides the large cities into several sectors according to their area and its importance, and all highwaymen comply with it a single cell ( a lead - the collection of information - a preparation - an execution ), and perfects the distribution of the sectors two things :
1- The goals .
2-The security cautions .
The land role and its nature in the guerrilla war departments :
The use of these divisions takes place according to the land that the work and its nature depends on, then it is not possible that I carry out the war of mountains in Najd for example, but there some of the countries in them different kinds of topographies are found ( mountains - forests and bushes - swamps - cities ) then in such countries the work in its first department ( mountains ) can rise, and that has happened Falia in several countries from them : ( Chechnya - Afghanistan - Philippines ) .
As for if is NOT has places suitable for the work as the mountains and the forests then it is content by the cities forces and the cooperators .
A note : the cooperators are a common factor between the three parts, and she is the winning card for the organization as mentioned in the past * * .
Er, excuse me, but your pedantry is showing.
MAY 29, 2004
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Yahoo's Global Islamic Media Provides Link to Probable New al Qaeda Site
The latest postings on the Yahoo sponsored Global Islamic Media are liberally sprinkled with hyperlinks to a probable new al Qaeda site.
For example, these messages (http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/globalislamicmediacenter/message/70
http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/globalislamicmediacenter/message/69 ) provide a link for readers to www.koolpages.com/sout17
While that address has apparently been removed by the administrators of Kool Pages much of the material on that site now appears on line at http://www.oddworldz.com/neda2/index.htm .
An Old al Neda Graphic Used on the Current Site
The Oddworldz site contains graphics very similar to the al qaeda site formerly known as alneda.com. The site was originally believed by U.S. officials to have been used by al Qaeda to deliver messages possibly connected with further attacks on America,
The www.alneda.com name was eventually obtained by a Maryland pornographer and used for a pro-American bulletin board service. Visitors to that domain name are currently welcomed with a sign that says, "Hacked, tracked and now owned by the USA."
If the site counter at www.koolpages.com/sout17 was accurate, there is a lot of interest in what al Qaeda has to say. There were over 431,000 visits recorded to the location.
Unlike many of the jihadi/radical Islamic sites which are prevalent on the Internet, the site formerly known as alneda has always been light on the graphics and heavy on the information. One of the documents available for download was more than 3400 pages.
The placement by al Qaeda of information on a free domain name is in line with the group's Internet activities soon after the Alneda name was no longer available. While al Qaeda operatives obtained at least one other domain name and advertised the site on a variety of radical Islamic bulletin boards that site was quickly shut down.
The group then turned to hacking small, little used sites and then inserting information in an obscure subdirectory which members presumably hoped would not be quickly noticed either by the site owner or the Internet service provider. Now al Qaeda is apparently using free web site services (supported by advertising) and promoting the group's presence in the same way when its operatives were hacking sites – on radical web sites bulletin boards and groups like Yahoo's Global Islamic Media.
Oddworldz.com and Free Home Pages both appear to be subsidiaries of the Hollywood, Fl. based www.inet-traffic.com. A call and an e-mail to the company's customer service department requesting information was not immediately answered.
Yahoo did not respond to a request for information about its continued hosting of Global Islamic Media.
In a related story, the Northeast Intelligence Network (www.homelandsecurityus.com)reported that a translation of a post on Global Islamic Media revealed responsibility by al Qaeda for "the downing of American Airlines flight 587 over Queens in November 2001. The article, published ... Global Islamic Media's Yahoogroup, lists the successes that al Qaeda has achieved since the attack on America in September 2001. Al Qaeda has previously claimed credit for all of the other attacks on the list. The cause of the AA flight 587 crash is still listed by the FAA as accidental, with no indications of terrorism."
The fact that this site is up and running is not a good sign.
Yep.
In all fairness, _Jim is a good, knowledgeable and level-headed Freeper -- and he is also polite. _Jim was more or less baited (if that is the proper word) by some good Freepers on this thread who disagree with him and that is why _Jim stopped by. From those beginnings, the rancor grew.
I have my questions about the blackouts, and I would like to wrap it all up neatly and say it was al qaeda, but I cannot ever take _Jim on in this area with any level of facts because I have zero knowledge on the topic; no expertise at all! I respect _Jim's knowledge and background and I respect the powerful evilness of al qaeda. There may be others here who have much more knowledge then me and then they can feel secure in challenging _Jim. I sure don't.
I know recent reports claim that a series of accidental "innocent" incidents led to the blackout and I also know of a recent report claiming that the authorities have arrived at no final conclusion as to the cause. The grid is that complicated (especially to little old me). I am sitting on the fence as always on this topic because I have no place else to go. Only the jihadis can prove _Jim and others who share his training and position wrong.
My main point is that _Jim is a good guy. It is difficult to remain polite when we are baited; I do it to. I know the Freepers who brought _Jim up are good guys, too. Can't we all agree to respect each others' difference in opinions and knowledge levels? Inviting _Jim to comment on something can be done nicely or in a baiting way. Everyone here has something to contribute and already has contributed over and again. We need that to continue. Come on guys, we are all on the same team.
JG has learned that two days ago the disaster response team was mobilized in Gettsburg. A FEMA friend called to advise a number of agencies are on maximum alert.
There was a security blockade on 15 random checking cars and trucks with at least 15-20 police cars and government vehicles in the vicinity of Three Mile Island.
She said coming in to the 30 & 15 intersection of Gettsburg near Walmart there had been a flashing light that normally flashed white. She noticed it then flashed red and then it was solid red. Another FReepers said they were testing it and the next day it was back to white. It then went back to red and last night it was GONE. Many strange things going on. JerseyGirl did not have access to her computer so I am relaying this info for her.
Hey MamaDearest. Do you know if jerseygirl is still in CT?
2Tim.3
[1] But understand this, that in the last days there will come times of stress.
[2] For men will be lovers of self, lovers of money, proud, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy,
[3] inhuman, implacable, slanderers, profligates, fierce, haters of good,
[4] treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God,
[5] holding the form of religion but denying the power of it. Avoid such people.
"I suppose this is the future of the Internet - idiocy attempting to do rocket science."
Heard a funny sounding helo outside 10 minutes ago.....saw and indentified Coast Guard 6568 circling around western Burbank for 10 minutes. Mind you, I live 26 miles inland from any shoreline. Heard them on Burbank Tower frequency, 118.70 since they were in the departure space for the airport.
Then they don't have a lick of common sense or they feel the work assigned is beneath them. It's hard to understand why they don't have human beings answer calls related to terrorist threats. Numerical forwarding telephone systems and ignored messages could be a blunder causing the nation another catastrophic loss. It would not be unreasonable for us to expect them to polish up their act in light of the blunders they are currently accused of.
The old addage - united we stand - divided we fall - was never so true. Their integrity is going to depend on them following up and investigating critical terrorist threats based upon the everyday person's terrorist sightings and tips. The FBI motto is "Fidelity, Bravery, Integrity." Here are their top priorities (as of 2003) FBI Top Priorities
Well stated JP! FReepers Forever! We think for ourselves and share what we learn :)
Wow, that can't be good. Something is definitely going on - carriers going out for "exercises" and now this.
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