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Pentagon: Hersh report 'journalist malpractice'
| May 17, 2004
| CNN Staff
Posted on 05/17/2004 10:54:39 AM PDT by tvn
NEW YORK (CNN) -- Officials in the Pentagon and the U.S. intelligence community Monday flatly denied a New Yorker magazine report that Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld approved a clandestine unit to crack down on terrorists held at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison, where inmates were abused.
The article, by Seymour Hersh, quotes a former intelligence official saying the unit's instructions were, "Grab whom you must. Do what you want." The report also says the CIA pulled its people from involvement in interrogations at the prison in October "because it was out of control."
"This is the most hysterical piece of journalist malpractice I have ever observed," said Lawrence DiRita, spokesman for Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, in response to Hersh's report.
A senior intelligence official said the article contains "fantasy," adding, "I haven't found any truth in it."
The unit described simply does not exist, the intelligence official said...
Hersh, who won a Pulitzer Prize for his story on the My Lai massacre in Vietnam, said he had fewer than half a dozen sources for his report but more than two. And "more than a few in the CIA" know about the the agency's pullout from Abu Ghraib, he said.
Secretary of State Colin Powell said Sunday he had read a summary of the New Yorker article and stressed that all war prisoners should be treated humanely. "I haven't read the article and I don't know anything about the substance of the article," Powell said. "I have just seen a quick summary of it. So I will have to yield to the Defense Department to respond."
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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: donaldrummsfeld; homoerotica; iraqwar; prisonscandal; seymorhersh
Pentagon official flatly denies existence of secret interrogation squad. Time to hear from Hersh's "fewer than half dozen sources...but more than two."
posted on 05/17/2004 10:54:39 AM PDT
Time to hear from Hersh's "fewer than half dozen sources...but more than two."
Meaning that Hersh has 3, 4 or 5 sources making stuff up.
Or that he's making up 3, 4 or 5 sources...
posted on 05/17/2004 10:57:25 AM PDT
(www.ArmorforCongress.com...because Congress isn't for the morally halt and the mentally lame.)
Hersh, who won a Pulitzer Prize for his story on the My Lai massacre in Vietnam, said he had fewer than half a dozen sources for his report but more than two
Three, to be exact. His head. His a**. And his dog.
posted on 05/17/2004 10:57:28 AM PDT
(John Kerry - Hillary without the fat ankles and the FBI files...)
To: tvn; okie01
to hear from Hersh's "fewer than half dozen sources
Here's a guess...Alan Foley, Mr. & Mrs. Wilson, ____________
posted on 05/17/2004 11:06:29 AM PDT
To: okie01; dirtboy
or, perhaps that Hershwas set up..(G).he was fed this by someone who knew he'd jump on it like a starving dog on a bone, without checking..
posted on 05/17/2004 11:07:28 AM PDT
(Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to propagate her genes.....any volunteers?)
" more than two.
I wonder if Sy Hersh will site his sources and show us all how credible they are especially in view of the overwhelming number of news people who doubt the existence of WMD
posted on 05/17/2004 11:08:26 AM PDT
he was fed this by someone who knew he'd jump on it like a starving dog on a bone, without checking..
You mean, perhaps by somebody in the Senate who'd somehow received a copy of the report before Rumsfeld...?
posted on 05/17/2004 11:10:25 AM PDT
Hersh's sources could be named "me, myself and I". That's more than 2 and less than 6.
posted on 05/17/2004 11:10:28 AM PDT
by I'm ALL Right!
("A rich man has no need of character. " ~John Kerry's favorite Hebrew Proverb~)
This is the most hysterical piece of journalist malpractice I have ever observed..."
The deeply unfortnately thing is that, unlike all other organizations in the country, only media organizations are all but totally immune from civil or criminal legal proceedings thanks to the overly generous interpretation by the courts of the First Amendment's freedom-of-the-press clause.
posted on 05/17/2004 11:11:32 AM PDT
(I'm sorry the public shrugged when Clinton said truth depended on what the meaning of IS, is.)
Seymore Hersch = Seymore Butts
posted on 05/17/2004 11:12:16 AM PDT
What was Hersh writing about during the 8 years of the Clintons ?
The only people who can be surprised that Hersh is pitching manure again are those who haven't seen him pitch it before.
posted on 05/17/2004 11:22:19 AM PDT
(Liberal to child: you'll sink into depravity eventually, so do it at home, now, where it's hygienic)
quotes a former intelligence official
And a FORMER official would be in the loop how? < sarcasm> "Former official" also implies a Clintonite, now there's areal good reliable source for ya, they would never stoop to lying, all the while putting our troops at risk, just to win an election !< /sarcasm>
To: Eric in the Ozarks
Hersch actually wrote an incredibly critical book about John F. Kennedy, if you can believe it. Called The Dark Side of Camelot. Contained a lot of new information. What if this story were true? The Sec Def wants special attention given to a group of prisoners. Information is needed. The soldiers respond by putting underwear on the prisoner's heads and walking them about naked. Does that make any sense? Do people actually think that Rumsfeld got on the phone and barked, "I want underwear on some heads before sundown, or I'll bump ya back down to private!" Even if it were true that they asked for "special attention" to be given, it hardly seems likely that Rumsfeld dictated the embarrassing coercion used.
You could be right ...Seymour Hersh, has published a large number of credible investgations over many years and I trust his writing more then most. Usually his sources in Mil and Intel are excellent. I doubt he has an agenda to politically slam Bush..
So in my mind either this story has some inkling of truth or he was setup royal....
posted on 05/17/2004 12:06:37 PM PDT
(trust no one)
I believe you and I have different spins on the term "set up"..
posted on 05/17/2004 12:10:47 PM PDT
(Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to propagate her genes.....any volunteers?)
"Here's a guess...Alan Foley, Mr. & Mrs. Wilson, ____________"
May I add Walter Pincus to your list?
Meaning that Hersh has 3, 4 or 5 sources making stuff up ...
Hmmmm. Hersh claims to have current and past intelligence sources.
I bet two months pay that one of these so-called sources is Joe Wilson's wife, you know, the Clinton flacky who screamed bloody murder when Novak confirmed (everybody already knew) that she was in the CIA.
I am quite sure she would say ANYTHING and EVERYTHING to tarnish President Bush and Sec.Def Rumsfield, no matter how libelous or how much she had to make up.
Hersh will never reveal his source, so she is safe.
So that takes care of Hersh's "current intelligence source". As for the "past govt source," that could be any one of a thousand Clintonoids, every one of whom would make up phony claims about Sec. Rumsfield or President Bush in a Clinton-orgasmic minute.
posted on 05/17/2004 12:18:26 PM PDT
You could be right ...Seymour Hersh, has published a large number of credible investgations over many years
You mean "incredible", do you not?
posted on 05/17/2004 12:22:35 PM PDT
(Hersh's) methods came under severe criticism following the publication of his 1997 bestseller The Dark Side of Camelot and its negative portrayal of John F. Kennedy. While conducting his research, Hersh came across what looked like his biggest scoop since My Lai: a cache of unknown JFK documents offering apparent proof of an affair with Marilyn Monroe, among dozens of other tantalizing factoids. Hersh gained access to them through Lawrence X. Cusack, a man who claimed his father was a lawyer for Kennedy. The papers eventually were shown to be forgeries-Cusack is now in prison-but Hersh refused for months to disbelieve them, coming up with desperate rationalizations for skeptics who wondered why documents containing ZIP codes were dated before ZIP codes even existed.
Here is an example of Hersh's so-called credibility.
In other words, he has none.
Check out National Review's recent article which documents the blatant lies and crap Hersh has printed over the years.
posted on 05/17/2004 12:32:31 PM PDT
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