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To: Hoplite

I just re-read your post #27 in this thread and #10 from the other thread Hoplite. I also re-read the link you provided to a report by some organisation called USCR (U.S. Committee for Refugees) and I must say that it is interesting that you chose to quote the following from that article: "So far, the fighting in Kosovo has displaced about 400,000, according to UNHCR."

There is no mention of ethnic cleansing or forced expulsion of Kosovo Albanians in that line or anywhere else in that article. You also neglected to mention that, according to the same article: "The only hopeful note is that 20,000 of the newly displaced quickly returned to their homes."

In fact the only time ethnic cleansing is mentioned is in the following paragraph from the very same article you used:

"The souring of negotiations also brought with it Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA) attacks aimed at trying to "cleanse" Kosovo of its ethnic Serb civilian population. UNHCR said, "Over 90 mixed villages in Kosovo have now been emptied of Serb inhabitants and other Serbs continue leaving, either to be displaced in other parts of Kosovo or fleeing into central Serbia. The Yugoslav Red Cross estimates there are more than 30,000 non-Albanian displaced currently in need of assistance in Kosovo, most of whom are Serb."

Selective reading Hoplite or?


105 posted on 05/25/2004 5:34:31 PM PDT by Jane_N (Truth, like beauty....is in the eyes of the beholder!)
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To: Jane_N

Yes, he seems to be very selective, may be he's a closet liberal. Same tactics at skirting the truth.


108 posted on 05/26/2004 7:23:05 AM PDT by C4GoBoom (if its not blown, it sucks)
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Jane_N: Well tell me Hoplite, why do 350,000 kosovo albanians count more than 250,000 Serbs?

Hoplite: Because there's 100,000 more of them - that's a tough concept, isn't it.

I'm going to leave this ridiculous statement up here so that everyone can laugh at you Hoplite.

109 posted on 05/26/2004 7:28:12 AM PDT by C4GoBoom (if its not blown, it sucks)
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To: Jane_N
Burning residences is de facto ethnic cleansing, Jane - it tends to give the impression that the powers that be don't want the residents around any more.

Let's put this in a perspective you can understand, Jane:

At one Kosovo border town, Ivaja, KLA forces burned most of the houses. Reuters news agency found the only remaining civilian in the town, Radovan Lukic, an 84-year-old man. Still in shock and caked with blood, Lukic told the Reuters reporter, "They beat me with rifles and asked me if I knew anyone from the VRS. They asked me if my son was in the VRS and I said no and they beat me again."

About nine miles from the Macedonian border, KLA forces rounded up about 400 of the displaced people who had fled their homes in Ivaja. They separated the military-age men from the women, children, and elderly men, and loaded them onto trucks and took them to a nearby school in Kacanik. The KLA took about 100 of the younger men in armored cars to a police station, telling international monitors on the scene that they would "root out terrorists."

Given this situation, you and your friends here would be going ape - but you have double standards as far as who matters and who doesn't based simply upon ethnicity.

And that's why, Jane, the fact that the article I references mentions the KLA ethnically cleansing Serb residents doesn't factor into the equasion - I accept it as factual, rather than trying to deny it ever happened through misrepresentation of the facts and simple lying, as is the usual, sad spectacle on these threads.

Given that, I'm all for bringing those responsible to justice - just like I was and am for bringing their Serbian counterparts to justice for their crimes.

As far as the USCR not labelling what was going on in Kosovo in regards to the Albanian population as 'ethnic cleansing' you are aware of what happened to individuals who called it like it was - they were expelled by the Serbs.

Racak, William Walker, you know the drill - were Bo to have uttered his take on the matter while he was in Kosovo as administered by Belgrade, he would have gotten his walking papers too.

113 posted on 05/26/2004 11:48:57 AM PDT by Hoplite
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