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Berg beheading: No way, say medical experts
Asia Times ^ | May 22, 2004 | Ritt Goldstein

Posted on 05/21/2004 7:11:02 AM PDT by Dr. Marten

Berg beheading: No way, say medical experts
By Ritt Goldstein

American businessman Nicholas Berg's body was found on May 8 near a Baghdad overpass; a video of his supposed decapitation death by knife appeared on an alleged al-Qaeda-linked website (www.al-ansar.biz) on May 11. But according to what both a leading surgical authority and a noted forensic death expert separately told Asia Times Online, the video depicting the decapitation appears to have been staged.

"I certainly would need to be convinced it [the decapitation video] was authentic," Dr John Simpson, executive director for surgical affairs at the Royal Australasian College of Surgeons, said from New Zealand. Echoing Dr Simpson's criticism, when this journalist asked forensic death expert Jon Nordby, PhD and fellow of the American Board of Medicolegal Death Investigators, whether he believed the Berg decapitation video had been "staged", Nordby replied: "Yes, I think that's the best explanation of it."

Questions of when the video's footage was taken, and the time elapsed between the shooting of the video's segments, were raised by both experts, reflecting a portion of the broader and ongoing video controversy. Nordby, speaking to Asia Times Online from Washington state, noted: "We don't know how much time wasn't filmed," adding that "there's no way of knowing whether ... footage is contemporaneous with the footage that follows".

While the circumstances surrounding both the video and Nick Berg's last days have been the source of substantive speculation, both Simpson and Nordby perceived it as highly probable that Berg had died some time prior to his decapitation. A factor in this was an apparent lack of the "massive" arterial bleeding such an act initiates.

"I would have thought that all the people in the vicinity would have been covered in blood, in a matter of seconds ... if it was genuine," said Simpson. Notably, the act's perpetrators appeared far from so. And separately Nordby observed: "I think that by the time they're ... on his head, he's already dead."

Providing another basis for their findings, in the course of such an assault, an individual's autonomic nervous system would react, typically doing so strongly, with the body shaking and jerking accordingly. And while Nordby noted that "they rotated and moved the head", shifting vertebrae that should have initiated such actions, Simpson said he "certainly didn't perceive any movements at all" in response to such efforts.

During the period when Berg's captors filmed the decapitation sequence, circumstances indicate that he had already been dead "a quite uncertain length of time, but more than ... however long the beheading took", Simpson stated. Both Simpson and Nordby also noted the difficulty in providing analysis based on the video, the inherent limitations presented by this. But both also felt that Berg had seemed drugged.

A particularly significant point in the video sequence occurred as Berg's captors attacked him, bringing the supposedly fatal knife to bear. "The way that they pulled him over, they could have used a dummy at that point," reflected Simpson regarding what the video portrayed. Separately, Nordby said Berg does not "appear to register any sort of surprise or any change in his facial expression when he's grabbed and twisted over, and they start to bring this weapon into use".

Subsequently, Nordby said it was likely that the filming sequence was manipulated at the point immediately preceding this, allowing Berg's corpse to be used for the decapitation sequence. Nordby also emphasized that the video "raises more questions than it answers", with the most fundamental questions of "who are you, and how did you die", being impossible to answer from it. But broad speculation exists regarding a number of factors surrounding both Berg's death and the video, and its timing in regard to revelations of US prison atrocities.

In a May 13 article, the Arabic newsgroup Aljazeera reported that a Dubai-based Reuters journalist first broke the story, "but while Fox News, CNN and the BBC" were able to secure the video from the "Arabic-only website" that hosted it, Aljazeera was unable to locate it. And also on May 13, the Associated Press (AP) reported that the US Central Intelligence Agency had determined that Abu Musab al-Zarqawi was the individual who beheaded Berg.

Since Secretary of State Colin Powell's United Nations presentation of February 5, 2003, al-Zarqawi has been portrayed as the single most dangerous element facing the Bush administration's "war on terror". Powell's UN presentation has since been widely accepted as empty; nevertheless, al-Zarqawi appears to have surpassed even Osama bin Laden as the administration's No 1 terror target. And on May 15, Brigadier-General Mark Kimmitt, the Coalition Provisional Authority's chief Iraq military spokesman, declared that al-Zarqawi will be eventually caught, though that may prove particularly difficult.

On March 4, Brigadier-General David Rodriguez of the Joint Chiefs of staff revealed that the Pentagon didn't have "direct evidence of whether he's [al-Zarqawi] alive or dead", providing commentary on the nature of prior "evidence" linking al-Zarqawi to attacks and bombings. But that same day, AP reported that an Iraqi resistance group claimed al-Zarqawi had been killed the April prior in the US bombing of northern Iraq.

Speaking off the record, intelligence community sources have previously said they believe it "very likely" that al-Zarqawi is indeed long dead. Such a fact makes al-Zarqawi's alleged killing of Berg difficult to reconcile, and there has been broad speculation that blaming al-Zarqawi is an administration ploy. Further anomalies surrounding Berg's death have fueled added speculation.

According to e-mails sent from a US consular officer in Baghdad, Beth Payne, to the Berg family, Nick Berg was being held in Iraq "by the US military in Mosul". A May 13 AP report notes that a US State Department spokesperson subsequently said this was untrue, an error, and that Berg was being held by Iraqi authorities. But another May 13 AP report quoted "police chief Major-General Mohammed Khair al-Barhawi" as claiming that reports of Iraqi police having held Berg were "baseless".

And Berg is seen on the beheading videotape in what appears to be US military prison-issue clothing, sitting in what appears to be a US military-type white chair, virtually identical to those photographed as used at Abu Ghraib prison. However, the taking of hostages has occurred in the region, and beheadings are not unheard of.

According to a February 2003 report by Human Rights Watch (HRW), on September 23, 2001, radical Islamists captured a group of 25 Kurdish fighters in the Iraqi village of Kheli Hama. "Some prisoners' throats had been slit, while others had been beheaded," HRW reported, noting that the television station KurdSat had broadcast pictures of the dead that September 26. The report also noted that a videotape "apparently filmed" by those committing the atrocities had been found.

The strict Islamist community in Iraq denied that the acts were committed by their people, stating that the incident was fabricated.

Additional reports of beheadings also exist, with the victims usually noted as killed with a bullet before the beheading occurs. But HRW's report also raised an issue that the Berg video's makers, and Berg's father, both raised: prisoner exchange.

HRW noted that Iraq's radical Islamists did pursue exchanges of captives, and the Berg video specifically noted that his captors claimed they were killing him as their attempts to exchange Berg had been rebuffed by US authorities. Berg's father, Michael, has pressed the administration of US President George W Bush as regards what the facts of this allegation are, with the administration denying any knowledge that such a trade was offered. And added questions still exist.

Because Iraq's radical Islamists speak in a particular manner, and live by a closely proscribed code, apparent contradictions between these ways and the way Berg's captors appeared has generated speculation. Some observers have speculated on the possibility that the individuals weren't native Arabic speakers. Conversely, it is reported that in Saudi Arabia, where Sharia law allows for beheadings in cases of severe crimes, the condemned is heavily drugged with tranquilizers prior to the execution, reportedly leaving them in a state similar to that which Berg appeared in during parts of the video.

Again, Nordby emphasized that the video "raises more questions than it answers".

Ritt Goldstein is an American investigative political journalist based in Stockholm. His work has appeared in broadsheets such as Australia's Sydney Morning Herald, Spain's El Mundo and Denmark's Politiken, as well as with the Inter Press Service (IPS), a global news agency.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alzarqawi; beheading; berg; hotair; islam; koran; muslims; navelgazing; nicholasberg; nickberg; zarqawi
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1 posted on 05/21/2004 7:11:06 AM PDT by Dr. Marten
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To: Dr. Marten

Grisly, but the conclusions the article reaches sure sound plausible to me.


2 posted on 05/21/2004 7:14:22 AM PDT by cvq3842
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To: nerdgirl

I thought you might like to see this.


3 posted on 05/21/2004 7:16:47 AM PDT by Bahbah
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To: Dr. Marten

Staged or not, these animals cut his head off.


4 posted on 05/21/2004 7:17:32 AM PDT by petercooper (Islam is not a religion of peace. It's a sadistic death cult.)
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To: Dr. Marten

Whether or not there was a staging of the video...Berg is dead and he was found decapitated...so what is the point of all the speculation...the tape might habeen dressed up for political purposes...but Berg is still dead and still decapitated. Nobody is saying they found drugs or bullets in his system when his body was presumably exhumed are they?


5 posted on 05/21/2004 7:17:32 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (The Democrats must be defeated in 2004)
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To: Dr. Marten

So it is all OK? - They killed him before they cut off his head?


6 posted on 05/21/2004 7:18:59 AM PDT by 2banana (They want to die for Islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Dr. Marten

Not bad till the last few lines, then there should have been a "camel humper apologist" warning. The only code those creatures live by is death to anyone that doesn't surrender to islam


7 posted on 05/21/2004 7:19:05 AM PDT by sticker
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To: cvq3842
U.S.oldiers found his decapitated body before the video showed up. His father stated that they knew Nick had been decapitated before the video showed up. The rest is just blather, unless someone thinks he's still alive.

Is this another Bush Lie?????????Give me a break!!!!!!

8 posted on 05/21/2004 7:19:13 AM PDT by Mister Baredog ((Kerry is a dork))
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To: Dr. Marten

"I think that by the time they're ... on his head, he's already dead."

Oh, well, that's ok then, no biggie. BTW, is the missing word "sawing?"


9 posted on 05/21/2004 7:19:22 AM PDT by Bahbah
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To: Dr. Marten

" . . .Speaking off the record . . ."

Of course any legitimate opinion is off the record - how conveinant for aploogists and terrorists supporters.

Dr. Simpson, director of surgical affairs huh? I guess he knows a lot about film making as well? Good at special effects?

This story IS NOT plausable. Not even a little.


11 posted on 05/21/2004 7:20:34 AM PDT by Iron Matron (Those who serve two masters also have two faces)
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To: Dr. Marten

This article fails to mention the expert's further observations that the Holocast never occurred and the moon landing was faked.


12 posted on 05/21/2004 7:21:57 AM PDT by chasman89031
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To: Dr. Marten

Bottom Line: Nick is headless...and this is THE atrocity the world should be focusing on, not Abu Gharib!


13 posted on 05/21/2004 7:22:58 AM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: Dr. Marten

Those that saw the video will testify that there was plenty of blood gushing out so this discredits the doctor's theory.


14 posted on 05/21/2004 7:23:56 AM PDT by travelnurse
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To: mdmathis6
I wonder if the origianl tapes before editing have shots of the bad guys without their hoods? If someone were in posession of the original tape, it might be possible to accruately identify the bad guys. Maybe that's how they have deicded that the 4 they have detained were involved in this?

I agree..... either way they killed him and cut off his head.

15 posted on 05/21/2004 7:24:26 AM PDT by kjam22
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To: Dr. Marten

This article is rationalizing minutia.

Berg was alive at the start of the tape. He was dead and beheaded by the end of the tape.

They murdered him.


16 posted on 05/21/2004 7:26:18 AM PDT by TomGuy (Clintonites have such good hind-sight because they had their heads up their hind-ends 8 years.)
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To: Baynative
They say: "A picture is worth a thousand words".

But we deal with "International" standards and things have changed: A picture of an "unknown" male with panties on his head is worth a million words.

A picture of hundreds of Kurds, men, women and children, lying motionless from "gassing" is worth a hundred words.

What's wrong with these pictures!!

17 posted on 05/21/2004 7:28:35 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: cvq3842
The only thing missing from this article is Free Republic's involvement with the CIA, the "enemy list" and how the VRWC was able to transmit decoder instructions sending Mr. Berg to Iraq in the first place.

What gives?

18 posted on 05/21/2004 7:29:12 AM PDT by StopThePress
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To: Dr. Marten

Soooooooooooo The FACT that Nick's decapatated body was found means NOTHING to them, OK I got it now.


19 posted on 05/21/2004 7:29:48 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: Dr. Marten

This article is Babs Shiite [BS]!!


20 posted on 05/21/2004 7:30:33 AM PDT by PISANO (NEVER FORGET 911 !!!!)
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