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To: rogueleader

So, since I cannot have children, I shouldn't be allowed to get married? How about couples who decide they don't want children ( I know a few ) ?


8 posted on 05/21/2004 10:28:57 AM PDT by zx2dragon (Noah's Ark is a problem ... We'll have to call it early quantum state phenomenon...)
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To: zx2dragon

You should be allowed to be married. You and your spouse can serve as a role model for younger couples.

I think there is a natural right to marriage that needs no justification.

Some people are told they are sterile, but later on they have children anyway.

If you get married and do not have children, you are still to act as if you did have children.


9 posted on 05/21/2004 12:08:25 PM PDT by rogueleader
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To: zx2dragon

You ask a simplistic, agenda-laden question. So I'll ask of you, "In order to gain societal recognition for your sexual proclivities, is it proper to destroy one of the most vital institutions of civilization? Why is your chosen sexual expression (which has been defined as degenerated from normal up until recent memory) representing less than 2% of the populace to be afforded greater value than the other 98% such that the instituions of civilization will be destroyed and rebuilt to accommodate your ilk?"


10 posted on 05/21/2004 1:15:25 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: zx2dragon
So, since I cannot have children, I shouldn't be allowed to get married? How about couples who decide they don't want children ( I know a few )?

Colson says that the reason for marriage is to raise kids. You believe this can't be true because it would exclude couples who are infertile or simply don't want children.

Some people believe that marriage is solely for the expression of love. But shouldn't they believe this can't be true because it would exclude people who don't really love each other? They get married sometimes, too.

Some people believe that marriage is mainly for sexual monogamy. But shouldn't they believe this can't be true because it would exclude people who can't have sex--quadraplegics, victims of castration, etc.? They get married sometimes, too.

Some people see marriage as a vehicle for financial stability. But shouldn't they believe this can't be true because it would exclude people who've had a bankruptcy or lots of overdrafts? They get married sometimes, too.

So...

1. Your point is absurd on its face.

2. It has nothing to do with the author's point, which is that same-sex parenthood is not equivalent to heterosexual parenthood, and that comparing the two reduces fathers to a penis and mothers to a vagina.

3. At its core, this isn't about infertility or gay sex or getting benefits. It is about whether we will have government by and for the people, or government by four people, namely, four oligarchs on the Massachusetts Supreme Court.

17 posted on 05/21/2004 9:32:23 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Pre-empt the third murder attempt: Pray for Terri Schindler-Schiavo!)
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To: zx2dragon

See post 29.


34 posted on 05/22/2004 8:33:26 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Pre-empt the third murder attempt: Pray for Terri Schindler-Schiavo!)
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