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Busted neo-con icon
ft.com ^ | May 22 2004 5:00 | ft.com

Posted on 05/21/2004 9:16:55 PM PDT by Destro

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To: Texasforever

I believe he first mentioned the Palis in his second Al Jazeera tape.


101 posted on 05/22/2004 12:31:08 AM PDT by wardaddy (This is it. We either win and prevail or we lose and get tossed into that dustbin W mentioned!)
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To: harbingr

This is another one of those "Jews control the world" kook theories..like the Bilderburgers etc.

Mark Levin pointed out on his radio show today that the railing against the so-called neo-cons (Kristol, Podhoretz,Perle,Wolfowitz etc)who supposedly control the President is just a code phrase for blaming the Jews .


102 posted on 05/22/2004 12:32:44 AM PDT by Cincinna (Beware HILLARY and her HINO)
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To: Destro

Well you implied that the communists maintained control of Afghanistan for 10 years after the Soviets were driven out. The fact remains that the Mujideen controlled Afghanistan from 1991 until 1996 and the Taliban controlled the country until we drove them out in 2002. But to the point of your assertion that Reagan's backing of the Mujideen was a "neo-con failure." That is specious. The defeat of the Soviets in Afghanistan was the final straw and arguably the most import reason for the final collapse of the Soviet Union, it was the death knell for their military viability.


103 posted on 05/22/2004 12:33:42 AM PDT by Texasforever (The French love John Kerry. He is their new Jerry Lewis)
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To: Destro

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104 posted on 05/22/2004 12:37:10 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: wardaddy

That's what I was thinking. He is an opportunist when it comes to claiming causes.


105 posted on 05/22/2004 12:38:43 AM PDT by Texasforever (The French love John Kerry. He is their new Jerry Lewis)
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To: Cincinna

That knife cuts both ways.

The term Paleo has been used around here to infer anti-semitism or worse on culture righties unjustifiably.

A once famous FReeper named after a Star Wars character did this almost daily and he had a following....


Anyone exhibited cultural conservatism or God forbid something arcane like Southern chauvanism and the Paleo label was unfurled along with the smears like anti-semite, talibanista, bigot etc.

That is no more accurate or fair than labeling all Neos as Jewish "Sons of Trotsky"

This is why my antennae go up when I hear these terms....they are rarely used in a benign way.

I long for the old FR days when I was a Newbie and the only war was between Conservatives and Libertarians.


106 posted on 05/22/2004 12:42:04 AM PDT by wardaddy (This is it. We either win and prevail or we lose and get tossed into that dustbin W mentioned!)
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To: wardaddy

LOL


107 posted on 05/22/2004 12:43:29 AM PDT by Texasforever (The French love John Kerry. He is their new Jerry Lewis)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
That definition is your own and bears NO resemblance,whatsoever,to the ONLY valid definition of the term.Thanks for proving my point,about the misuse and abuse of that term here,by some.
108 posted on 05/22/2004 12:44:05 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: wardaddy

Neleoconservatives. Hmmm. That has a nice ring to it . . .

Great stuff, wardaddy. Almost as good as "Husband-in-Law". ;0)


109 posted on 05/22/2004 12:47:52 AM PDT by BraveMan
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To: Texasforever; tpaine

When I first showed up here during the agonizing RECOUNT to post, I was stunned at the acrimony between Libertarians and Conservatives....now it seems quaint.

There are not many high-volume-posting Libertarians left.

Folks like OWK....I guess tpaine still carries the torch.

I like a couple of things about them but I'm just your garden variety Molon Labe, anti-infanticide, crush Moon Rock Nazis conservative with one foot in the culture war and another in US power projection.

Where'd the Libertarians go?


110 posted on 05/22/2004 12:48:58 AM PDT by wardaddy (This is it. We either win and prevail or we lose and get tossed into that dustbin W mentioned!)
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To: wardaddy

Just pick any drug thread. They tend to cluster there. Most of those threads end up in the backroom.


111 posted on 05/22/2004 12:50:44 AM PDT by Texasforever (The French love John Kerry. He is their new Jerry Lewis)
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To: BraveMan

Thanks.

My husband in law is now my ally. He is so much easier to deal with than the ex-wife. (also known as the Queen Shrew of the Known Universe For Now and All Time Henceforth)


112 posted on 05/22/2004 12:51:49 AM PDT by wardaddy (This is it. We either win and prevail or we lose and get tossed into that dustbin W mentioned!)
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To: Destro
Since the Yiddish theatre was actually far better know for its dramas and was NOT the inspiration for modern American comedy,perhaps your stab at what you imagine is a Yiddish theatre inspired comedy routine (whatever THAT may be),fell flat.

Actually, the "tumlers" (sp?) of the Castskill Mountains resorts,were the training grounds of many old,famous standup comics and one movie comic...Danny Kay.

BTW...many of the MOST famous plays of the Yiddish theatre,were inspired by/outright stolen from such Jewish giants as William Shakespeare. :-)

113 posted on 05/22/2004 12:51:58 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: sinkspur

hey sink.
I am not a complete daft pr*ck...
but when I read the article I saw the term thrown around "trotskyite".

I know of Trotsky.
HOW in the hell are the dreaded neocons, trotskyites?

I just don't get the connection.
clue me in.


114 posted on 05/22/2004 12:52:12 AM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (the madridification of our election is now officially underway.)
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To: Robert_Paulson2
I just don't get the connection.

Some of the well known "neo-cons" fathers were "trotskyite". at least according to legend. The Neo-Cons have also been called "red-diaper" babies.

115 posted on 05/22/2004 12:55:09 AM PDT by Texasforever (The French love John Kerry. He is their new Jerry Lewis)
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To: Texasforever
Absolutely correct! OBL NEVER mentioned the plight of the Palestinians,until well after 9/11.
116 posted on 05/22/2004 12:56:15 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons
Yiddish theater was well known for its comedy and yes I meant the comedy routine i.e. I was doing shtik.
117 posted on 05/22/2004 12:56:46 AM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Texasforever

and here last week some freeper told me that neocons were all jews.

and we all know jews are bad right?

we are jews, we are trotskyites, we are not men... we are DEVO.

what a zoo!


118 posted on 05/22/2004 12:57:35 AM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (the madridification of our election is now officially underway.)
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To: Robert_Paulson2

Now you are getting the message.


119 posted on 05/22/2004 12:58:34 AM PDT by Texasforever (The French love John Kerry. He is their new Jerry Lewis)
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To: Texasforever
The Neo-Cons have also been called "red-diaper" babies.

You know, I've honestly had several people ask me if my "rdb" meant "red-diaper baby."

No lie.


120 posted on 05/22/2004 1:00:12 AM PDT by rdb3 ($710.96... The price of freedom.)
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