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1 posted on 05/22/2004 8:12:28 AM PDT by mhking
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2 posted on 05/22/2004 8:13:33 AM PDT by mhking (Don't wait for the translation, ANSWER ME NOW!)
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Parents in general don't discipline their kids, expect them to study etc. That's what's really wrong with schools - that and that they are run by professional educators.


4 posted on 05/22/2004 8:20:38 AM PDT by Let's Roll (Kerry is a self-confessed unindicted war criminal or ... a traitor to his country in a time of war)
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bump for monda AM edition


9 posted on 05/22/2004 8:32:51 AM PDT by newsgatherer
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I collect on student loans, each day I speak with people who are on public assistance with no means or desire to pay their loans. Their comments are laced with contempt and obscenities for the system they depend on to survive.
One borrower told me that all education should be free, when I asked her where the government would get the funds, she said they could "print more money". If I said everything I wanted to say to them I wouldn't last an hour on the job.

You don't even want to hear about the lawyers who owe thousands and laugh and hang up if I do manage to get them on the phone. A legal system run by lawyer politicans makes it nearly impossible to suspend the licenses of lawyers who flatly refuse to pay.
Deadbeat lawyers are as big a problem as dead beat dads, except the lawyers have the means to pay. Shakespear had it right.

10 posted on 05/22/2004 8:34:11 AM PDT by The Brush
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bump


11 posted on 05/22/2004 8:34:13 AM PDT by satchmodog9 (it's coming and if you don't get off the tracks it will run you down)
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"If I weigh a loudmouthed conservative racist announcer's thoughts and opinions against a 12-year-old child being shot," concern for the child wins, he said."

Sigh. This is what we are fighting against. If Bill Cosby says it, he understands it. But if a conservative says it, he is a loudmouth racist.

I wish he would understand - we are not the enemy. We are the solution.


12 posted on 05/22/2004 8:35:02 AM PDT by I still care
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"If I weigh a loudmouthed conservative racist announcer's thoughts and opinions against a 12-year-old child being shot,"

Well I guess one truthful statement by Cosby does not stop him from playing the race card. Jerk. And his shows suck too.

13 posted on 05/22/2004 8:35:57 AM PDT by evolved_rage (Where they take an arm and a leg.)
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"We've got to help these people," he said. "We've got to get the neighborhood back."

This is the attitude which got us into trouble in the first place. As good as Bill Cosby is, he has to learn a new way of thinking which goes like this:

"These people have to start helping themselves. They have to take responsibility for their lives and then take their neighborhoods back."

We have been shoveling "help" from the outside in for 50 years and there has been no success.

15 posted on 05/22/2004 8:38:30 AM PDT by CurlyDave
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"If I weigh a loudmouthed conservative racist announcer's thoughts and opinions against a 12-year-old child being shot," concern for the child wins, he said.

Mr. Cosby, if you'd put aside the hateful rhetoric for a moment and listen with an open mind, you'll find that a lot of 'loudmouth conservative racist announcers' quite agree with the essence of the comments that you've made, as they are represented in this article.

To be fair, I haven't heard the whole of the original comments, or how (Limbaugh?) played them. All I have to work with what I see here.

16 posted on 05/22/2004 8:40:10 AM PDT by Riley (Need an experienced computer tech in the DC Metro area? I'm looking. Freepmail for details.)
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He said at some point in time you can't continue to blame white people for every problem that black people may have, and I agree with that. ... but that point in time is not going to arrive in MY lifetime, because then I'd have to get a real job and change my name back to Bob Smith, or whatever it was.
18 posted on 05/22/2004 8:41:22 AM PDT by Tax-chick (It's possible that I look exactly like Olivia DeHavilland.)
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"If I weigh a loudmouthed conservative racist announcer's thoughts and opinions against a 12-year-old child being shot," concern for the child wins, he said.

My Reply to Bill Cosby:

Well Bill, if you ever listened to some of these loudmouthed conservatives, you'd find they aren't racist at all. They want exactly what you want for the black youth of America. They want them to do what every American can, and should do. They want them to go to school and apply themselves, you know, learn a useful skill? (by the way, to any libs reading this, there is plenty of job training provided by the govenment for underpriveledged persons- It's called Public School- I'm not a big fan of the Public School system, but it is free, and if you apply yourself there, you can get your college paid for! Wow! what a country!) Once you have a skill, you can make money and be a productive member of society.
But Bill, this is where you go wrong in aligning yourself with the Liberal (read, Socialist) politicians in America. Liberals don't want you to have to provide for yourself at all. They want for you to be able to pick up your government supplied paycheck for producing nothing, so that you can continue doing nothing for the rest of your life. Unfortuanately, socialism has a tendency to devour itself over a certain period of time as the ratio of producers to leeches tilts more and more to the leeches.
This is what the black youth of America is learning from their parents. Either you become a Basketball star, or an entertainer (no offense to you Mr. Cosby, I know how hard you have worked to get where you are), or you collect welfare. That is the extent of many young black's ambition. And do you know what? It makes me sad.
I live on a street where there are many black families on welfare. I talk to their kids all the time. These kids are smart! They have so much potential! Unfortunately, you are right about how they speak. So, as a WASP American Conservative male I do what I believe to be my duty. I encourage them. I encourage them to work hard. I encourage them to learn to speak properly. I encourage them to read. I encourage them to ask questions. I encourage them to learn everything they can about anything at all. I encourage them to grow up to be whatever they want. Yes, many of them want to be football, or basketball players, or rappers- but many of them want to be doctors, or electricians, or military officers, and other professions as well. Regardless of what they want to do, I encourage them to work as hard as they can at what they do- and do it because they love to do it, not because of money.
Sadly, this is not what they get at home. I think you know what they get at home. So, I do what I can to help.

By the way Bill, I am a loudmouthed conservative and proud of it. Am I a racist? No.

Perhaps it's time you re-think just who your friends are, and who you align yourself with politically.

You may be more conservative than you realize.

Very Respectfully,
The Musical_Airman


19 posted on 05/22/2004 8:44:35 AM PDT by musical_airman (Be an American Patriot- Make Beer!)
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Funny that only loud mouth conservitives that have been saying the exact thing as Cosby for YEARS are racist. Wonder what that makes Bill? Proof that too much Jello can be toxic to the brain!


29 posted on 05/22/2004 8:57:47 AM PDT by Bommer (John Kerry = "You mean I can get a Purple Heart for cutting myself shaving?")
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"If I weigh a loudmouthed conservative racist announcer's thoughts and opinions against a 12-year-old child being shot," concern for the child wins, he said.

Uh, Bill, not nice. Or is Cosby saying his own views are those of racists?

31 posted on 05/22/2004 9:01:08 AM PDT by atomicpossum (I give up! Entropy, you win!)
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Possibly blacks can reasonably blame white people for a large share of their troubles. First the slavers, then the whites who kept them under Jim Crow laws, then the Democrat politicians who bought and corrupted them with handouts and lies. All those whites share some of the guilt.

BUT, so what? The only people who can fix the problems of blacks are blacks. Everyone has to take hold of his life and teach his children to take hold of their lives. With the help of God's grace, each of us has to learn how to make the right choices, do the right thing, and live what the ancient philosophers called the good life.


32 posted on 05/22/2004 9:01:12 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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I think his "loudmouthed conservative racist announcer" comment was an attempt to regain some street credibility with the people he offended. unfortanately that kind of talk will get him even more marginalized.


33 posted on 05/22/2004 9:01:38 AM PDT by proust
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It would be untactful for anyone here to raise the issue of all Qweesie's illegitimate children. I believe that he will admit to having five or six kids with four or five women, none of whom he ever married. But, so long as he talks the talk, it doesn't matter if he doesn't walk the walk because, well, he is a leader of the black community and sets an example by the power of his speech, certainly, on matters of education.


37 posted on 05/22/2004 9:21:10 AM PDT by Tacis (,)
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"If I weigh a loudmouthed conservative racist announcer's thoughts and opinions against a 12-year-old child being shot," concern for the child wins, he said.
How about a loudmouthed, radical, racist, black, race baiter such as J.J. Jessie Jackson, or Al Sharpton. Do their thoughts stand above the welfare of a child? I think your unstinting support of them shows where you stand.


39 posted on 05/22/2004 9:23:23 AM PDT by em2vn
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What a hoot! Cosby doesn't like conservatives and harbors race discrimination close to his chest but here he is in AGREEMENT with conservatives. Even ole bill is seeing what conservatives have been trying to say for a long time!
43 posted on 05/22/2004 9:37:27 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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[ "I can understand the sting. I feel I have to say it," Cosby said in a telephone interview. ]

A broken clock is correct twice a day.. If a democrat had any sense they would'nt even be a democrat.. They'd be a neocon screwing up the best agenda for this country by real conservatives. And many of the less dumb ones are.

45 posted on 05/22/2004 9:39:57 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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i agree with cosby's remarks, obviously. having lived in los angeles and having been threatened with guns by blacks, the problem of the inner city black male begins with his parents or parent. like cosby, i remember riding a bus and sitting behind a black kid who was wearing $500.00 of jewelry; he was telling an older woman that he was "disadvantaged".

cosby ought to curb mrs. cosby. she got tammy bruce of kfi fired several years ago.

tammy bruce was an late evening radio host on kfi 640 am los angeles. she's a lesbian, but i found her honest. growing up poor, she rose to head n.o.w. of los angeles.

later she flipped from democrat to republican. she's now best buds with david horowitz.

the issue was the murder of cosby's son. he was driving a luxury car and had a flat on the 405 between west l.a. and the valley at night. he got out to change it and was murdered by a russian immigrant. the cops found him, and brought him to justice.

mrs. cosby went ballastic on national media, saying something to the effect that the united states is a racist country and this was to blame for her son's death.

tammy took the opposite, and common sense view imo, she said what happened was regretable, but could happen to any american. any american that stopped that night in the santa monica mountains to change a tire would have been robbed and murdered by that crazy russian immigrant.

so much for free speech. mrs. cosby used her husband's billion dollar empire to complain to the owners of kfi. tammy was removed from her long-standing kfi radio show. money has its privileges, even if the opinion of mrs. cosby is reverse-racism and commonsensical not.

tammy is now a "right-wing" lesbian! she had a book out a couple years ago. the los angeles times mag did a piece on her when she got her bachelors degree from usc at middle age, starting with her dinner invite to horowitz's right wing mansion in malibu, and ending with a media observation that a phd in politics might be in her future because she's very bright. obviously the radical left and feminists of los angeles hate her guts.


47 posted on 05/22/2004 9:46:12 AM PDT by no_problema
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