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Ebonics! Weird Names! $500 Shoes! Shrill Bill Cosby and the speech that shocked black America
Village Voice ^ | May 26 - June 1, 2004 | Ta-Nehisi Coates

Posted on 05/25/2004 10:30:56 AM PDT by dead

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To: cyborg
In my defense I..... nevermind, I got nothin'
Bring the insults, I deserve it.
141 posted on 05/25/2004 8:47:46 PM PDT by BMiles2112
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To: dead

COMPLETE AUDIO of the EVENT

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/mmedia/metro/052304-1s.htm


142 posted on 05/25/2004 8:50:28 PM PDT by mbraynard
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To: BMiles2112
No insults necessary pal.

I defy you to find a single person on FR who's made more obscure, inane pop cultural references on this website in the space of a little under three weeks.

Good luck!

143 posted on 05/25/2004 8:52:09 PM PDT by The Scourge of Yazid ("Why don't we just ask Gerard? Gerard knows everything.")
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To: Bombardier

NyQuille----obviously conceived after dosing the wife with some heavy-duty cough medicine.


144 posted on 05/25/2004 8:59:53 PM PDT by willyboyishere (bE)
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To: rdb3; Darnright; ItsonlikeDonkeyKong; ServesURight

113 - "Black humor has always been crass, politically-incorrect, and filled with profanity and sex. "

"Explain Sinbad, then. "

I used to admire Sinbad, until I found out he had two totally different personas, and his 'white' persona was definitely not his 'normal' persona.

A few years back, he had a late nite TV show (replacing Arsenio Hall and a number of others in the same spot). It lasted locally for about 2 months before they yanked him. It was amazing. He had a mostly black audience, and not only was he VERY "crass, politically-incorrect, and filled with profanity and sex. ", he added advocating lying, cheating, theft, kite-ing checks, skipping out on rent, stealing, hiding your car from the repo man, and all kinds of other bad things, skipping out on payments for children (both legitimate and illigitimate), cheating on wives and girlfriends.

I was astounded, it was really bad and pathetic, and his studio audience loved it. However, locally, it raised tempers, and massive call ins to the TV station which pulled it well short of their 'contract', and they replaced it with reruns of something else.


145 posted on 05/25/2004 9:09:35 PM PDT by XBob
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To: 50sDad
The Cosby Show, there was always a touch of bourgeois fantasy. The marriage of a black doctor and a black lawyer was blatantly calculated

You're right about the commentator -- if blacks can become doctors and lawyers --- and I should think the leftists would think they should be --- how is it a bourgeois fantasy that a black doctor would marry a black lawyer? People often do marry within their same education level. I think the show was pretty realistic of the way black professional families live. At least the ones I've known.

146 posted on 05/25/2004 9:33:19 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: jimt
Are you saying black people should shun white businesses even if they get the best value there ?

I think they should do what they want --- however other groups have done much more to "help" their own group. You will certainly see Mexicans shunning non-Mexican businesses, and I've seen ethnic groups support one of their own, you see them hiring their own but you can't really accuse blacks of doing that too much. Sometimes I think they should do it what the others do --- for example in some neighborhoods, they have been angry at the Korean immigrants who own the stores and who definitely have an inclination to hire only other Korean immigrants --- but you'll see the blacks shopping there -- even though they face discrimination.

147 posted on 05/25/2004 9:44:16 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: XBob
I remember that.

I think his show ran a bit longer on the New York affiliates, but I'm not positive.

To be honest, I don't remember much about his monologues, except for a joke about illegal immigration that was moderately amusing.

If by 'white' persona, you mean the incredibly lame, not especially funny comedian who starred in such gut-busters as "Jingle All The Way", than I beg to differ.

Sinbad was great when he starred on "A Different World" and hosted "Showtime at the Apollo." He also had a great set when he was a stand-up comedian.

However, I'd say the past decade or so has not been too friendly to the man, at least as far as commercial success goes. Unless someone can provide evidence to the contrary, I'd say that the career of Sinbad-at least in mainstream comedy-is just about finished.

148 posted on 05/25/2004 11:12:12 PM PDT by The Scourge of Yazid ("Why don't we just ask Gerard? Gerard knows everything.")
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To: mbraynard
Thanks for that link. I enjoyed listening to common sense of 'the Coz'... hopefully this will get some momentum going for parenting of ALL American youth of ALL COLORS!
149 posted on 05/26/2004 2:59:08 AM PDT by Chieftain (To all who serve and support those who serve - thank you!)
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To: FITZ
So right. The idea that the Usual Suspects would be upset at a TV series that showed that blacks can be successful...and that picturing two smart, well-spoken black professionals is somehow "unrealistic"...would seem itself racist. (But of course, by definition, it is impossible for Liberals to be racists....)

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150 posted on 05/26/2004 5:22:42 AM PDT by 50sDad ( ST3d - Star Trek Tri-D Chess! http://my.oh.voyager.net/~abartmes)
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To: Redcoat LI

I would imagine she had everyone's gum in her hair on the school bus.


151 posted on 05/26/2004 5:25:57 AM PDT by steve8714
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To: XBob
...he added advocating lying, cheating, theft, kite-ing checks, skipping out on rent, stealing, hiding your car from the repo man, and all kinds of other bad things, skipping out on payments for children (both legitimate and illegitimate), cheating on wives and girlfriends.

Good lord, has someone told the Black Spokespeople like Jessie that in order to be "black", a comedian has to refer to immoral and irresponsible? This means that in order to actually conquer the problems that apparently beset their political base, they should be prompting the black churches to condemn immoral behavior, push for self-control and personal responsibility, and work to attack the real shortcomings of their own culture, rather than constantly assuming that every trouble they face is the result of oppression from without by Da Man! This could be hugh! Why isn't this being reported!!!!

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Bill has it right, and the people who are supposed "friends to the black community" will do what they have done for fifty years...blame the Other Guys, and line their own pockets while the black family takes the damage.

152 posted on 05/26/2004 5:35:09 AM PDT by 50sDad ( ST3d - Star Trek Tri-D Chess! http://my.oh.voyager.net/~abartmes)
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To: yankeedame
And what if, by some twist of fate, "the best" for this or that particular, well-known project were white males?

If the best are white males, that's the way we go. I was thinking, actually, of a particular calibration service we use, where all employees are black males. We don't hire them for "affirmative action", we hire them because they are outstanding at what they do.

153 posted on 05/26/2004 6:21:40 AM PDT by jimt
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To: Dark Knight
My heart goes out to the guy (Bill Cosby) every time I think of him.

Bump for a righteous post.

Cosby stepped up and has always stepped up. People forget he broke color lines that had been built with steel when he became the first black man to star in a television show. Hard to imagine, but it caused a lot of tumult at the time. Even Robert Culp was patted on the back for allowing Cosby to co-star with him.

Cosby's humor was always clean and edifying; he never swore and was consistently hilarious. Long before Seinfeld, he was the best.

My favorite old bit of his was when his brother and he jumped on their bed and broke it, then blamed the damage on "the man who came in the window."

Cosby's only son's death was tragic and very peculiar.

Blacks and whites all need to pay this man respect. If not him, who?

154 posted on 05/30/2004 11:38:17 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: dead

Hey. I just wanted to thank you guys for posting my articles here. Given that we come from different positions on of the issues, feedback here is especially interesting. It's always good to know what people are thinking, especially if they don't agree with you. Who knows, I might be wrong. Anyway, thanks for the postings, thanks for being so vocal in your responses, and please, read on.


155 posted on 05/31/2004 7:39:11 AM PDT by Ta-Nehisi Coates
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To: dead
the speech that shocked black America

What?!

Black America really thought that talking like ghetto trash and wasting money on pimp gear was OK?

156 posted on 05/31/2004 7:41:53 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Now you go feed those hogs before they worry themselves into anemia!)
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