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Israeli Agents Believed Involved in Abu Ghraib
NewsMax ^ | 5-24-04 | Carrl Limbacher

Posted on 05/25/2004 6:13:45 PM PDT by TruthWarrior

Israeli Agents Believed Involved in Abu Ghraib

Diplomatic sources in Washington tell NewsMax's U.N. correspondent Stew Stogel that Israeli nationals are believed to be involved in the Iraq prison controversy.

"Israelis have been to Abu Ghraib and other prisons [in Iraq]," says one source familiar with the U.S. operations.

It was explained that the Israelis involved have been assigned as "civilian contractors" to work with Coalition forces in interrogating Iraqi POWs.

The "contractors" are said to be veterans of Israel's domestic intelligence unit, Shin Bet, as well as the more famous international intelligence agency, the Mossad.

"Who has better experience in dealing with the Arabs than Israel?" one source asked.

It was explained that several of the "interrogation" techniques used by U.S. forces in Iraq have in fact been used by Israel "for years."

The technique of stripping Arab prisoners naked, to embarrass and humiliate them, has been used by Israelis, according to Arab diplomats at the U.N.

It should be noted, however, that torture and mutilation are common techniques used by Arab countries on their prisoners.

Word in NYC diplomatic circles is that some of the "civilians" seen in recent Iraq prison photos are in fact Israeli nationals "advising" U.S. forces.

Neither U.S. nor Iraqi diplomatic officials in NYC or Washington were available for comment.

The charges come after an incident in April in which an Israeli Arab working in Iraq was kidnapped and charged with spying.

Nabil George Yaakob Razouk, an Israeli Arab employed by Research Triangle International, a North Carolina-based firm under contract to the State Department, was abducted by Iraqi insurgents and said to be a spy.

Razouk, working on "local governance" advising, was seized in Najaf and held for more than two weeks.

Only the personal intervention of Yassir Arafat, who acted after pleas from the Razouk family, is believed to have saved him from execution.

The latest disclosures come as an Iraqi diplomatic team has temporarily canceled a visit to U.N. headquarters to consult with the Security Council about the modalities for the transfer of power expected on July 1.

Among the Council ambassadors with whom the Iraqis are expected to meet is U.S. Ambassador John Negroponte.

Negroponte will leave his U.N. post next month to become the new U.S. ambassador to Iraq, once the Coalition authority is dissolved.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: iraq; iraqipows
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1 posted on 05/25/2004 6:13:46 PM PDT by TruthWarrior
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To: TruthWarrior

bump


2 posted on 05/25/2004 6:14:06 PM PDT by TruthWarrior
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To: TruthWarrior

Oh great.


3 posted on 05/25/2004 6:15:09 PM PDT by Guillermo (Simpson, you've got a short in your tail light. It started blinking when you made that turn - Wiggum)
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To: Guillermo

just more anti-semitism from the left, and an attempt to gin up muslim hatred by linking israel to US efforts.


4 posted on 05/25/2004 6:17:58 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: Guillermo

I trust NewsMax a lot.

They are one of my favorite news venues that I visit online.

I don't know what to make of this article, though, but I trust the journalism of the NewsMax folks.


5 posted on 05/25/2004 6:18:12 PM PDT by TruthWarrior
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To: oceanview

NewsMax is as far from the left that journalism can get.

They are a solid conservative source of news.


6 posted on 05/25/2004 6:20:35 PM PDT by TruthWarrior
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To: Guillermo; oceanview

I have always been a big fan of the reporting that NewsMax has done on the issue of how Communist China is not a friend of our nation.


7 posted on 05/25/2004 6:25:20 PM PDT by TruthWarrior
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To: TruthWarrior

There isn't one named source in this article. Not one. We have:

"Diplomatic sources in Washington..."

"...one source familiar with the U.S. operations..."

"It was explained that..."

"...one source asked."

"Word in NYC diplomatic circles ..."

"...according to Arab diplomats at the U.N."

Since NOT ONE source is named, I maintain a healthy skepticism of the entire article.







8 posted on 05/25/2004 6:26:56 PM PDT by wimpycat ("The road to the promised land runs past Sinai."-C.S. Lewis)
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To: TruthWarrior

I have assumed from the beginning that Israel has been advising/helping us in clandestine ways in the war on terror. The relations between the Mossad and CIA and MI6, and a number of other intelligence services, go back 50-odd years. They are on the front lines, have the most experience, and understand the Arab mentality far better than we do, and they are our most dependable allies in this fight. All the leftist whining about Zionist neocons won't change the facts.


9 posted on 05/25/2004 6:27:08 PM PDT by Argus
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To: TruthWarrior
Diplomatic sources in Washington tell NewsMax's U.N. correspondent Stew Stogel that Israeli nationals are believed to be involved in the Iraq prison controversy. "Israelis have been to Abu Ghraib and other prisons [in Iraq]," says one source familiar with the U.S. operations.

It never says in the articles that this info came from the US. It came from "diplomatic sources" which makes the anonymous reports highly suspect in my book.

It's a headline, Newsmax is a news site.

Conservative or liberal they're in it for the hits.

10 posted on 05/25/2004 6:27:09 PM PDT by dawn53
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To: TruthWarrior

The writer ignores the fact that these "methods" were discontinued (internally) by the IDF and Mossad since a 1998 Israeli Supreme Court ruling outlawing them, unfortunately.


11 posted on 05/25/2004 6:30:20 PM PDT by montag813 ("A nation can survive fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.")
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To: wimpycat

I am skeptical as well.

However, I trust NewsMax and have always had the utmost confidence in their reporting.


12 posted on 05/25/2004 6:30:53 PM PDT by TruthWarrior
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To: TruthWarrior
Doesn't surprise me that Israeli involvement would be an issue sooner or later.

One of the contactors assigned to Military Intelligence and involved in the Abu Ghraib abuse even was one John Israel... doesn't take much to figure that one out.
13 posted on 05/25/2004 6:31:43 PM PDT by qwertz
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To: montag813

That is very true.

Israel's security establishment does not use heavy-handed tactics.

They respect human rights of detainees.


14 posted on 05/25/2004 6:31:55 PM PDT by TruthWarrior
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To: TruthWarrior
This particular story is "old news". An associate of mine in one of the agencies broken out of State to go over to Homeland Security was the first one who passed it along to me.

The way he told the story this was a common belief in Washington (whether it was true or not).

On the surface it looks like just another version of "blame the Jews". However, when you dig into it a little further, the whole idea cracks up on the rocks of PFC England's alleged sexual escapades with multiple partners.

Not likely she needed Mossad to teach her any of that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

15 posted on 05/25/2004 6:32:21 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: qwertz

The name Israel does not necessarily indicate someone being Jewish.

Israel is a common first name in Catholic Latin America.


16 posted on 05/25/2004 6:32:51 PM PDT by TruthWarrior
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To: TruthWarrior

what the hell has happened to NewsMax over the last two weeks...

They have tacked so hard its wierd...the damaging Bush screeds are rampant...

Anyone else notice this...or even WND...

What the hell is going on?


17 posted on 05/25/2004 6:34:02 PM PDT by antaresequity (This is not the "War on Terror"...we don't fight tactics.)
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To: muawiyah

I am very ashamed of PFC England.

She is not a virtuous lady, for sure.

I wish she had never joined our military, since she looks like she does not have any character to her soul.


18 posted on 05/25/2004 6:34:24 PM PDT by TruthWarrior
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To: TruthWarrior

Whenever there is trouble and you need a scapegoat...just blame it on the Jews .


19 posted on 05/25/2004 6:34:34 PM PDT by Cincinna (Beware HILLARY and her HINO)
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To: antaresequity

When has NewsMax damaged Bush with their reporting??!?


20 posted on 05/25/2004 6:35:45 PM PDT by TruthWarrior
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